The Coronavirus, not the beer
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sturg33
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How did it get in Australia?
Exactly
striker42
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One of the reasons Covid has spread so wildly and caused so many severe cases is that there was zero immune knowledge of it. It was a novel infection for our immune systems and so was unlike anything they had seen before. It makes the process of your immune system recognizing it and responding much slower.
A vaccine gives your immune system exposure to it. Omicron might be more effective at evading immunity but the fact that your immune system has seen something similar in the past will mean a quicker, stronger response. This usually means a shorter duration and less severe symptoms.
Have you ever had a cold going around your family where others seem to get it really bad and you just get a mild version? That often happens because you've had a similar cold in the past and your body is better set up to fight off this new version. Same basic thing.
We have had spread for almost two years now.
Overwhelming majority of the human population is either vaccinated or has been in contact with the virus naturally.
Using old vaccines in response to a new variant when the only confirmed cases thus far has been in vaccinated people is a bit odd....
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striker42
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Australia does not require quarantine for citizens traveling internationally that are vaccinated and have a negative PCR test within 72 hours of their flight. So probably a vaccinated person picked up Omicron, got tested before a PCR test would come back positive, and carried it into the country.
sturg33
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OK I hadn't realized they opened their borders in November... assumed they were still closed. Thanks
striker42
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Boosters are essentially reminding your immune system about a threat. By keeping it on alert against Covid, the hope is that you'll see better response and better outcomes against Omicron. It's not really odd. It's not as good as a vaccine for Omicron would be but it's the best we got.
UK is fascinating because you only have to get tested upon arrival within two days. I did mine right at Edinburgh airport as soon as I landed. But for countries that require a test like the US they won't let you on the flight at all or check in until you show the negative test. I did a drive thru an hour before my flight.
France did not require a test before or after entry just vaccination QR code.
It's sad. It's beyond obvious by now that the "vaccine" is good for preventing serious illness and should be taken for those that are in an at-risk category. But it's not stopping the spread and likely never will. Mandates for it are a joke.
You would think by now the road forward is clear.
How many deaths for Sweden the past month?
striker42
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Sweden has twice the population of Norway but roughly 14 times the number of Covid deaths. Sweden just front loaded their Covid cost. It's not a model.
They were caught off guard early on and didn't protect their elderly. It was their only mistake and had they handled it differently the case would be closed on the right course of action. Currently they are at 56th in deaths per million across the globe. That number has been dropping tremendously the past few months.
Sweden is by far in the best position of any region in the world.
Maybe that changes - We will find out.
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msstate7
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Mostly take home prescription like insulin
Should have just flooded the zone with Ivermectin and HCQ and let us all go about our lives as normal aside from protecting at-risk.
We would have had far better outcomes.