The Coronavirus, not the beer
- Thread starter Runnin
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What I never understood though was the doubling/tripling/quadrouplings/etc.... down on things that were so obviously wrong.
I've been yelling at him that cloth masks only prevent droplets for almost 18 months and that wearing masks for this virus was useless. But I was the idiot at the time and didin't know what I was walking about. Looks like the medical establishment finally caught up to me....
In reality though, the lecturer left at a good time because the biggest of all of his lies and misrepresentations will be shown to the world.
I would actually pay money to see his face once all the evidence on election fraud is made public to where nobody can deny what happened on 11/3/20
I would actually pay money to see his face once all the evidence on election fraud is made public to where nobody can deny what happened on 11/3/20
Whoops - Looks like the 'people you knew' was either a complete lie or they are as dumb as you....
Ooof - Remember this oldie?
sturg33
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Some of these takes are so good... just click into random page for gold!
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The academic thinks policies can solve obesity... not personal accountability and discipline
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this buffoon was adamant that public leaders weren't encouraging bLM protestors. He had a meltdown of a dozen posts saying "tick tock" waiting for names... then when I gave him the names he moved on to his next embarrassment
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that one was a classic.
dude literally posted in German.
what a ****ing idiot.
almost as good as the grim reaper #1932 posts. I gotta hand it to him once he gets on a shtick he goes all in
striker42
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Reviewing some of the recent stuff here. It's pretty mindboggling. From what I can tell, some of the common Omicron arguments are:
1. More immune resistant variants like Omicron are caused by vaccinating people who don't need it and this ruins natural immunity.
2. New mutations are a good thing as there is pressure on the virus to make people less sick as less sick people spread viruses more than very sick people.
3. Omicron is a good thing because it causes a significantly lower rate of serious cases (I've seen one notable person refer to it as the common cold).
This logic is pretty hilarious.
It's pretty clear now that the Omicron has become so dominant because it can dodge the immunity from vaccines and past infections and cause breakthrough infections in large numbers. So while it does not appear high rates of vaccination caused Omicron (it arose in a low vaccine area), it became globally dominant because it can evade immunity delta can't.
But with new variants, mutations that allow things like evasion of immunity also tend to lead to a loss in "fitness." You see this in action with Omicron, it's heavily mutated but also significantly less dangerous on a case by case basis. These two things are not unconnected. The differences that make it less easy for the immune system to recognize make it less able to cause devastation in a human body.
I think we're seeing how the pandemic will end. The combination of our immune systems not being blank slates to this disease along with less and less fit variants will result in Covid becoming an endemic disease somewhere between common cold and seasonal flu.
So it's great to see how the vaccines have helped accelerate this process and cause a less dangerous variant to emerge (while still protecting against serious effects of the variant).
1. More immune resistant variants like Omicron are caused by vaccinating people who don't need it and this ruins natural immunity.
2. New mutations are a good thing as there is pressure on the virus to make people less sick as less sick people spread viruses more than very sick people.
3. Omicron is a good thing because it causes a significantly lower rate of serious cases (I've seen one notable person refer to it as the common cold).
This logic is pretty hilarious.
It's pretty clear now that the Omicron has become so dominant because it can dodge the immunity from vaccines and past infections and cause breakthrough infections in large numbers. So while it does not appear high rates of vaccination caused Omicron (it arose in a low vaccine area), it became globally dominant because it can evade immunity delta can't.
But with new variants, mutations that allow things like evasion of immunity also tend to lead to a loss in "fitness." You see this in action with Omicron, it's heavily mutated but also significantly less dangerous on a case by case basis. These two things are not unconnected. The differences that make it less easy for the immune system to recognize make it less able to cause devastation in a human body.
I think we're seeing how the pandemic will end. The combination of our immune systems not being blank slates to this disease along with less and less fit variants will result in Covid becoming an endemic disease somewhere between common cold and seasonal flu.
So it's great to see how the vaccines have helped accelerate this process and cause a less dangerous variant to emerge (while still protecting against serious effects of the variant).
cajunrevenge
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This thread is a good example of why I avoided arguing about the virus because its not something I know anything about and also why I never supported violence against people for not wearing masks etc. I do not buy that cloth masks dont help at all, only that its not a significant enough percent to justify it. I think it was pretty clear from the start that we should have use n95 type masks if possible. I dont know why that wasnt and isnt the priority.
This was always the end game with covid-19. There will be yearly booster shots that those who are vulnerable should take and everyone else will be fine.
