The Coronavirus, not the beer

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/18/virginia-school-test-scores-pandemic/

The Virginia Education Department said students are still bearing the scars of prolonged pandemic-related school closures, releasing test scores from last school year that showed them performing behind pre-pandemic levels.

While students saw across-the-board gains in the 2021-2022 school year compared to the previous academic year, state education officials said the progress was not enough, and pinned some of the good news on lowered standards — not on better student performance.

“Despite the scores being up from last year, they are down from pre-pandemic levels,” said Jillian Balow, state superintendent of public education, in a news conference Thursday.

The standards of learning data also showed that schools that returned to in-person instruction sooner fared considerably better than schools that remained virtual or hybrid longer.

“Students whose schools were closed suffered the most,” Balow said.

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The differences were particularly stark in mathematics. Two-thirds of students passed math exams last school year, compared to 82 percent before the pandemic. Racial and economic disparities also widened, with White and Asian students making more progress toward their pre-pandemic levels than Black and Hispanic students.

Passage rates remained more than 20 points behind pre-pandemic levels in math for Black, Hispanic and economically disadvantaged students, and among students learning English.


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"It is very important for schools to open. Every level of government should be making strenuous efforts toward having it happen as safely as possible."

nsacpi 7/12/2020

http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9878

I remain baffled about how those who purportedly care so much about our kids' educations were not willing to support the low-cost measures that would have made it easier and safer for schools to reopen. Indeed some of these "advocates for the children" relentlessly pushed (and continue to push) all sorts of crazy deza about the inefficacy and dangers of those low-cost interventions. Tis a pity.

Btw I also think the actions of teachers unions in many school districts during the pandemic were disgraceful and a black mark against them that will not easily wash away. Plenty of blame to go around. At the same time most teachers worked extremely hard to mitigate the disruption to their students' educations. So hard that some of them burned out and chose to retire or change professions. Many school districts right now are suffering from a severe shortage of teachers. Some refer to it as a crisis. Strangely I don't see many proposed solutions to this crisis from the self-appointed "advocates for the children."
 
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None of those precautions were effective and just caused psychological damage to children.

There was no deza as we have seen delays in speech and learning in general.

You again are not being truthful and sticking to yOur hysterically wrong positions.

Don’t forget healthy people. Get that dangerous jab!
 
Asking a child to wear a mask was one of the dumbest things that could have been proposed. Anyone that is still championing that idea doesn’t deserve the time of day.
 
acesfull86 said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/18/virginia-school-test-scores-pandemic/

The Virginia Education Department said students are still bearing the scars of prolonged pandemic-related school closures, releasing test scores from last school year that showed them performing behind pre-pandemic levels.

While students saw across-the-board gains in the 2021-2022 school year compared to the previous academic year, state education officials said the progress was not enough, and pinned some of the good news on lowered standards — not on better student performance.

“Despite the scores being up from last year, they are down from pre-pandemic levels,” said Jillian Balow, state superintendent of public education, in a news conference Thursday.

The standards of learning data also showed that schools that returned to in-person instruction sooner fared considerably better than schools that remained virtual or hybrid longer.

“Students whose schools were closed suffered the most,” Balow said.

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The differences were particularly stark in mathematics. Two-thirds of students passed math exams last school year, compared to 82 percent before the pandemic. Racial and economic disparities also widened, with White and Asian students making more progress toward their pre-pandemic levels than Black and Hispanic students.

Passage rates remained more than 20 points behind pre-pandemic levels in math for Black, Hispanic and economically disadvantaged students, and among students learning English.


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nsacpi said:
"It is very important for schools to open. Every level of government should be making strenuous efforts toward having it happen as safely as possible."

nsacpi 7/12/2020

http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9878

I remain baffled about how those who purportedly care so much about our kids' educations were not willing to support the low-cost measures that would have made it easier and safer for schools to reopen. Indeed some of these "advocates for the children" relentlessly pushed (and continue to push) all sorts of crazy deza about the inefficacy and dangers of those low-cost interventions. Tis a pity.

Btw I also think the actions of teachers unions in many school districts during the pandemic was disgraceful and a black mark against them that will not easily wash away. Plenty of blame to go around. At the same time most teachers worked extremely hard to mitigate the disruption to their students' educations. So hard that some of them burned out and chose to retire or change professions. Many school districts right now are suffering from a severe shortage of teachers. Some refer to it as a crisis. Strangely I don't see many proposed solutions to this crisis from the self-appointed "advocates for the children."
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If memory serves you only supported opening up schools by putting on senseless and useless precautions... Writing blank checks to the schools to make it happen. And forcing kids in masks and distance.

Kitchen sink I believe you called it

And now you want to blame the people that were right for not supporting putting useless face diapers on children 8 hours a day?

**** off idiot
 
The COVID cowards proved over and over again how incompetent they were with their fear and lack of critical thinking... They should never be listened to on any subject ever again

You can't be this wrong about something so damaging and expect to maintain credibility
 
I honestly can’t believe anyone would still push the idea that masking children ever made sense.

Like wow
 
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I honestly can’t believe anyone would still push the idea that masking children ever made sense.

Like wow
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"If you recall, I wanted schools to.be open... As long as we forced a whole bunch of useless **** on the kids. Throw kitchen sinks at them."
 
sturg33 said:
If memory serves you only supported opening up schools by putting on senseless and useless precautions
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one man's "senseless and useless precautions" another man's "low-cost and efficacious intervention"

it is worth keeping in mind that those interventions protected people other than students who are nonetheless important to the educational process (such as older teachers with pre-existing conditions)

in light of that i find it hard to believe that people who opposed such interventions really have the best interests of students at heart...if they really prioritized the education of our children they would not have been so strenuous in their objections to such measures...it seems to me folk libertarian ideology trumped best interests of the students for such people...which is why i find the lamentations about the effects on children's educations hypocritical
 
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Lol I can see the lecturing buffoon has learned nothing.

No self reflection.

Remember when you said Chinas tyranny was "not unreasonable"

Imagine being such a scared little bitch.

You'll need to face up to the fact that you supported sacrificing years of child development because you were irrationally scared. It's pathetic but be a man and own up to it and listen the critical thinkers next time
 
nsacpi said:
one man's "senseless and useless precautions" another man's "low-cost and efficacious intervention"

it is worth keeping in mind that those interventions protected people other than students who are nonetheless important to the educational process (such as older teachers with pre-existing conditions)

in light of that i find it hard to believe that people who opposed such interventions really have the best interests of students at heart...if they really prioritized the education of our children they would not have been so strenuous in their objections to such measures...it seems to me folk libertarian ideology trumped best interests of the students four such people...which is why i find the lamentations about the effects on children's educations hypocritical
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Efficacious intervention - lol

The small percentage of at-risk population of teachers and faculty can take the small risk of having to teach those damn kids! The rest should just deal with the potential of getting the flu.

I also laugh at the idea that if masks were fine at school (they did actually force these poor children to wear them) then learning would not have been interrupted. The teachers union used COVID in their own self-interest and harmed the children in the process.
 
thethe said:
Efficacious intervention - lol

The small percentage of at-risk population of teachers and faculty can take the small risk of having to teach those damn kids! The rest should just deal with the potential of getting the flu.

I also laugh at the idea that if masks were fine at school (they did actually force these poor children to wear them) then learning would not have been interrupted. The teachers union used COVID in their own self-interest and harmed the children in the process.
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He should go back to running away from this thread. There was at least a little.bit of self awareness there.

I had forgotten just how ****ing stupid he is
 
Less than 5% vaxing of young children. The idea that people will ever listen to cdc guidance is long gone.

Good riddance to a group of people that have no understanding how complex systems work.
 
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Adding the caveat that the most at-risk are likely to be vaccinated and boosted this graph is still showing us one important thing.

The vax is not actually significantly removing the worst case outcomes at the rate we were told. So what are they doing exactly?
 
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