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Exactly… Their outrage backfired. I remember how much support folks gave Chick-fil-a in the wake of the LGBT crowd shaking their fists, if you will.

The more they push things like that and Elich, the more people will resent them, IMO

Every movement requires extremists... without extremists, you don't have moderate followers. Without the Ted Cruz's of the world, you don't have guys like moderate Romney or McCain being nominated.

I just find it head scratching that the "LGBT" crowd is this abhorrent monster getting everyone fired, when just as simple as recent history, Chik Fil A and Duck Dynasty are still standing. As Zito pointed out long ago in another thread, Elich worked for a progressive company with progressive consumers. This wasn't 200 people that got him resigned, I believe it was 70k petitioning if not more. Nobody told him to resign. He resigned because he realized he f'd up.

For somewhat that cares so much about free speech, you should be glad they stood up for something when it came to Chik-Fil-A or Duck Dynasty. Would you rather have them not empowering their right to the first amendment? Their "intimidation" didn't appear to work did it.

When you say things like "the more they push things like that and Elich, the more people resent them, IMO". That sounds just like the tea party to me. The more they kept trying to repeal Obamacare, shutdown the government, and cut social programs, the more people got turned off by them and now they're just looked at as a joke fringe party.

Without a Martin Luther King Jr., you don't have millions of marchers.

If you didn't have "gay extremists" or demand marriage equality, there wouldn't be 17 states with same-sex marriage. When AZ almost passed their stupid bill, businesses came out in full force to stop it. Same thing in Georgia with a similar bill. Coca Cola was one of the front in center companies that told the GA State Legislature to not continue on the bill. Real businesses understand the importance of not discriminating gays. The biggest problem I have with libertarians is they say they support it but leave it up the states. That's a half-ass lazy view of getting something done that should be done. Clear as crystal that the chances of gay marriage getting passed in the deep south are almost impossible, at least not for another 20-30 years.
 
Sav, why not just respect that people see and value things differently?

It's really no one else's business how another views anything..

Don't like them or Thier viewpoint stay away from them but it is wrong to call to publicly vilify someone because Thier beliefs are different and call for Thier head.

How did mozilla , chick fil a or duck dynasty 'discriminate' against gays?
 
Sav, why not just respect that people see and value things differently?

How did mozilla , chick fil a or duck dynasty 'discriminate' against gays?

I wouldn't say discriminate but made them feel uncomfortable, something blacks feel every time they go into a store. :eusa_dance:
 
Every movement requires extremists... without extremists, you don't have moderate followers. Without the Ted Cruz's of the world, you don't have guys like moderate Romney or McCain being nominated.

I just find it head scratching that the "LGBT" crowd is this abhorrent monster getting everyone fired, when just as simple as recent history

I wouldn't say that but sure in heck they are being very loud with their submit/accept or we make your life miserable ploy.
 
Every movement requires extremists... without extremists, you don't have moderate followers. Without the Ted Cruz's of the world, you don't have guys like moderate Romney or McCain being nominated.

What was the movement here? Getting a CEO of a internet web browser to re-sign does nothing for their cause. It just annoys people
 
I just find it head scratching that the "LGBT" crowd is this abhorrent monster getting everyone fired, when just as simple as recent history, Chik Fil A and Duck Dynasty are still standing. As Zito pointed out long ago in another thread, Elich worked for a progressive company with progressive consumers. This wasn't 200 people that got him resigned, I believe it was 70k petitioning if not more. Nobody told him to resign. He resigned because he realized he f'd up.

They don't get everyone fired. But they sure as hell try. And Chick Fil A and Duck Dynasty backfired. They pissed enough people off that made folks resent them
 
For somewhat that cares so much about free speech, you should be glad they stood up for something when it came to Chik-Fil-A or Duck Dynasty. Would you rather have them not empowering their right to the first amendment? Their "intimidation" didn't appear to work did it.

They have those rights.. The way they go about it is a little absurd though. I would say the same thing about Westboro Baptist, and I'd guess you'd agree with me.

And Westboro has done a lot of good for their brand... :roll:
 
When you say things like "the more they push things like that and Elich, the more people resent them, IMO". That sounds just like the tea party to me. The more they kept trying to repeal Obamacare, shutdown the government, and cut social programs, the more people got turned off by them and now they're just looked at as a joke fringe party.

So... are you agreeing with my point, then? Cause you seem to resent the tea party quite a bit.
 
If you didn't have "gay extremists" or demand marriage equality, there wouldn't be 17 states with same-sex marriage. When AZ almost passed their stupid bill, businesses came out in full force to stop it. Same thing in Georgia with a similar bill. Coca Cola was one of the front in center companies that told the GA State Legislature to not continue on the bill. Real businesses understand the importance of not discriminating gays. The biggest problem I have with libertarians is they say they support it but leave it up the states. That's a half-ass lazy view of getting something done that should be done. Clear as crystal that the chances of gay marriage getting passed in the deep south are almost impossible, at least not for another 20-30 years.

If you didn't have "Gay extremists" you wouldn't have a bunch of janitors cleaning off "Gay-M-U" off our campus walls... Oh and by the way, the school punished the organizations, and they protested the decision and blamed it on "bigotry." Surprise surprise.

Wonder when our school President will need to step down?
 
Who is the face of the LGBT crowd?

In all there are 79 faces.

Elton John or Ru Paul -- but not both ---- can't remember.
Cher -- Barney Frank -- J.Edgar Hoover? Lady Gaga and maybe Michael Sam??
I know for a fact it includes Mike Piazza
 
If you didn't have "Gay extremists" you wouldn't have a bunch of janitors cleaning off "Gay-M-U" off our campus walls... Oh and by the way, the school punished the organizations, and they protested the decision and blamed it on "bigotry." Surprise surprise.

Wonder when our school President will need to step down?

I spend every day at a prominent University and have never seen "Gay-M-U" written on any campus walls.
 
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