The mess in Syria

Why are you so obsessed with Bush? I didn't support his foreign policy, either.

Syria still has to meet the demands. I'm glad that we've worked something out for the time being. Anytime diplomacy prevails is a good thing.
 
bravesnumberone said:
Why are you so obsessed with Bush? I didn't support his foreign policy, either.

Syria still has to meet the demands. I'm glad that we've worked something out for the time being. Anytime diplomacy prevails is a good thing.
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Not at all obsessed with Bush. Just really tired of the right wing creation of conventional wisdom that Obama is no better than Bush and people lazily buying in when all one has to do is no more than scratch the surface .

If Russia tells Syria to meet the agreement. Syria will meet the agreement. They may be butchers and war criminals but they aren't stupid.
Trying to think of another case in history where a dictator pissed off both the US and Russia
 
an equally on point assessment

Up w/ Steve Kornacki ‏@upwithsteve 22m
Rep. @AlanGrayson quotes Shakespeare on #Syria: "All's well that ends well."
 
America, where if you step back from going to war, it is a bad thing cause you ended it peacefully

even if the side that is angry at you for doing it, didn't want to go to war either and were hating you for trying to push us into a war
 
America, where you praise someone for something even though it contradicted everything he's been saying and wasn't even mainly his doing, as long as he has the right letter next to his name.
 
bravesnumberone said:
America, where you praise someone for something even though it contradicted everything he's been saying and wasn't even mainly his doing, as long as he has the right letter next to his name.
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about what?

i mean, i am talking to someone who thinks i am a fan of Obama and my comment had something to do with this: "long as he has the right letter next to his name."

so, i am not sure what i am supposed to take serious with you
 
I have no idea what to make of your "America, where if you step back from going to war, it is a bad thing cause you ended it peacefully, even if the side that is angry at you for doing it, didn't want to go to war either and were hating you for trying to push us into a war" comment, so sorry for the misunderstanding.

I'm glad that for now, it's been avoided, but to suggest Obama is the main one responsible for avoiding it, as posts on here have insinuated ("He'll be remembered as the president that avoided military action in Syria.") is garbage. He's been beating the drums for two-three weeks. He said it would be a "red line" if Assad used the gas, and apparently, he did. Then he went on television, making his case for a military strike, using "American exceptionalism" in the argument, when he's argued against that concept in the past. He delayed taking it to Congress because he knew he didn't have the votes or public support. He got bailed out on this, but he'll get the credit.
 
Not disputing your above claim and agree with the sentiment but-- what does the drone program have to do with syria?
 
bravesnumberone said:
Still can't be denied that Obama has done some major waffling on this for the last two weeks.
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He can do all the waffling he wants, as far as I'm concerned, as long as he ends up landing at the right place ultimately.

I'm not sure where this idea arose that obstinacy should be praised and that changing one's mind is the worst sin imaginable.
 
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