The Official Thread of Pachemonium

SJ24 said:
Have you seen him play defense? How about his speed? (I guess they are telling him not to run in A+ for some reason)
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Guess you missed the whole part when I said it's all hype except the defense. A speedy center fielder is not all that special. Thus far the only thing worth the hype is the D...
 
zbhargrove said:
Guess you missed the whole part when I said it's all hype except the defense. A speedy center fielder is not all that special. Thus far the only thing worth the hype is the D...
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Byron Buxton and Kevin Pillar aren't special?

The guys at Fangraphs think that is the baseline for Pache, and if the bat comes, he's a 6-WAR star.
 
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msstate7 said:
Slugging is up to .415 from .343 last year. Iso is up to .132 from .062 last season. Who knows if it continues though
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I hope it does... pretty small sample size right now though. I'll be the happiest guy in the world if he proves me wrong... trust me
 
SJ24 said:
Byron Buxton and Kevin Pillar aren't special?

The guys at Fangraphs think that is the baseline for Pache, and if the bat comes, he's a 6-WAR star.
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I don't think Pillar is... no. And while Buxton is a solid player... he's been a huge let down overall.
 
SJ24 said:
Byron Buxton and Kevin Pillar aren't special?

The guys at Fangraphs think that is the baseline for Pache, and if the bat comes, he's a 6-WAR star.
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And if Fangraphs have that as his baseline, it can't be any different! They even admit they are higher on him than everyone else basically because of the tools and not the results.
 
zbhargrove said:
And if Fangraphs have that as his baseline, it can't be any different! They even admit they are higher on him than everyone else basically because of the tools and not the results.
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Remember he’s the same age as a college freshman in High A right now. And it’s not like he’s struggling. Hit his first HR, better average, higher slugging/ops and strikeouts have been way down in the last couple weeks.
 
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ball4life32 said:
Remember he’s the same age as a college freshman in High A right now. And it’s not like he’s struggling. HR’s, average, ops all up from last year.
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I realize this. He's a solid prospect. He's not the uber prospect that the OP is making him out to be. Nowhere have I said he's not a solid prospect.
 
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The Florida State League is a pitching friendly league and Pache is going through tweaking his swing. Given that, he's made strides, the issue is...he needs to start drawing walks.

He's a guy, as long as he deals with the FSL just fine...that could go to Miss and finally "blow up" eventually (whether later this year or 2019) as while the Southern League is pitching friendly, based on what we've seen with some, the Florida State League leans even heavier on that side.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
The Florida State League is a pitching friendly league and Pache is going through tweaking his swing. Given that, he's made strides, the issue is...he needs to start drawing walks.

He's a guy, as long as he deals with the FSL just fine...that could go to Miss and finally "blow up" eventually (whether later this year or 2019) as while the Southern League is pitching friendly, based on what we've seen with some, the Florida State League leans even heavier on that side.
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Pache has 3 walks in his last 11 games. He had 0 in the previous 15.

He's getting there!
 
SJ24 said:
No. Do you remember Jeff Jackson and Brien Taylor? Hell, I may or may not have been around at the time of David Clyde and Fred Lynn.

I just choose to dream and have fun. Pache is a good guy to dream on. You act like I'm dreaming on Marcus Mooney or Ray Patrick Didder.
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Let me guess...

You're tehteh's son?
 
Enscheff said:
Let me guess...

You're tehteh's son?
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I am not nearly as high on guys like Newk, Riley, Folty, Fried, Allard, etc. I don't see any stars there.

I am not pumping up Pache because he's a Brave. I didn't pump up Ronald because he was a Brave. They don't even require pumping up. They are just good.

You can't seem to grasp this. It is completely foreign to you to see someone who has nuance.
 
SJ24 said:
I am not nearly as high on guys like Newk, Riley, Folty, Fried, Allard, etc. I don't see any stars there.

I am not pumping up Pache because he's a Brave. I didn't pump up Ronald because he was a Brave. They don't even require pumping up. They are just good.

You can't seem to grasp this. It is completely foreign to you to see someone who has nuance.
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Yes, your commenting is so far above my level of intelligence I can't hope to grasp what you have to say.

5 months left....5 months.
 
(Fwiw, SJ24, I think his first post was just good-natured ribbing, not an attack.)
 
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