The Paul Pelosi Attacker

mqt said:
Yes, those appear to be the facts. However, I don’t find that Pelosi and the lunatic acting irrationally in this very intense and fast paced situation implies there’s more to the story. People act irrationally all the time in far less extreme circumstances.
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Ok great.

I have concerns about a few of these facts.

1. The lack of security makes zero sense

2. The crazy lunatic would not allow his captive to be excused or open a door (I know your defense here is that he is in fact crazy)

3. When rescued, Paul Pelosi would not put himself back in danger with a crazed lunatic

I'm sorry man just use your brain for a second. If your only defense of all this is "people be crazy bro!" then that's not good enough for me. They should in fact release the footage
 
sturg33 said:
Ok great.

I have concerns about a few of these facts.

1. The lack of security makes zero sense

2. The crazy lunatic would not allow his captive to be excused or open a door (I know your defense here is that he is in fact crazy)

3. When rescued, Paul Pelosi would not put himself back in danger with a crazed lunatic

I'm sorry man just use your brain for a second. If your only defense of all this is "people be crazy bro!" then that's not good enough for me. They should in fact release the footage
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Again, I don’t see how any of the other conspiracies magically make any more sense.
 
mqt said:
Tell me more about how it was a gay lover due to them being in their underwear then. If you (a general you) need to change your conspiracy, are you being honest?
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I think the general dishonesty we have seen should leave any and all options open as possible despite most of them being extremely unlikley.
 
mqt said:
Again, I don’t see how any of the other conspiracies magically make any more sense.
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I'm not saying the do. I'm saying what is being reported does not.

1. Consistent changing story from police and media

2. Eventually agreed on facts make no sense

3. They refuse to release the footage
 
When you lie in the beginning its an endless game of catchup to contain the ramifications of your lies.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm not saying the do. I'm saying what is being reported does not.

1. Consistent changing story from police and media

2. Eventually agreed on facts make no sense

3. They refuse to release the footage
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So wouldn’t you agree it’s wholly irresponsible for public figures on the right to promote these conspiracies given the obvious understanding that no matter what we find out later their audience will cling to those conspiracies?
 
mqt said:
So wouldn’t you agree it’s wholly irresponsible for public figures on the right to promote these conspiracies given the obvious understanding that no matter what we find out later their audience will cling to those conspiracies?
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Just as irresponsible as saying this guy was MAGA.

But this is the world we are in now because of all the lies the left has pushed for the past decade. And before you say the right does the same I'd love to create a ledger of said lies and do a comparison.
 
I can spin up a more plausible story than what is being reported. Do I think this is what happened? No. But this MAKES MORE SENSE than what is being reported

1. Hippy nudist activist who frequents political events and protests has been friendly with Paul before

2. Hippy nudist friend of Paul is invited over to Paul... No need to bypass security. He's let in

3. Hippy nudist activist - potentially drugged up -is crazy and starts talking about crazy things... Making Paul uncomfortable

4. Paul goes to bathroom and calls the cops for potential help... Identifying his "friend" in the house

5. Cops show up. Paul indicates things are ok and that is for checking on them on routine wellness check

6. Crazy drugged up lunatic feels betrayed and bashes Paul's head in

The speaker calls in a favor to her district to ensure none of these details get to the public.
 
thethe said:
Just as irresponsible as saying this guy was MAGA.

But this is the world we are in now because of all the lies the left has pushed for the past decade. And before you say the right does the same I'd love to create a ledger of said lies and do a comparison.
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How is it equally irresponsible to take DePape’s own written words as it is to claim he was an invited guest? Though I don’t believe someone like DePape seems to be sane enough to have a coherent ideology and could just as easily have veered in a different direction at any point.
 
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sturg33 said:
I can spin up a more plausible story than what is being reported. Do I think this is what happened? No. But this MAKES MORE SENSE than what is being reported

1. Hippy nudist activist who frequents political events and protests has been friendly with Paul before

2. Hippy nudist friend of Paul is invited over to Paul... No need to bypass security. He's let in

3. Hippy nudist activist - potentially drugged up -is crazy and starts talking about crazy things... Making Paul uncomfortable

4. Paul goes to bathroom and calls the cops for potential help... Identifying his "friend" in the house

5. Cops show up. Paul indicates things are ok and that is for checking on them on routine wellness check

6. Crazy drugged up lunatic feels betrayed and bashes Paul's head in

The speaker calls in a favor to her district to ensure none of these details get to the public.
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I honestly can’t think of anything less plausible than someone like Pelosi willingly inviting a homeless man into his home for basically any reason. We’re talking about a rich ghoul here.
 
mqt said:
I honestly can’t think of anything less plausible than someone like Pelosi willingly inviting a homeless man into his home for basically any reason. We’re talking about a rich ghoul here.
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Powerful people are weird.

Why does Paul Pelosi drive drunk when he can hire a driver?

Why does Deshaun Watson force masseurs on him rather than get any woman he wants consensually?

Power is a weird thing.

But the constant changing story of police and media tell me they are not simply reporting what happened
 
sturg33 said:
I understand your desire for snark. It's really how you can do these days

but please tell me why a person would call the cops on someone threatening him... and when the cops show up, return to the assailant who is holding a weapon in his hand

the best defense at this point would be senility
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There are two documents out there known as affidavits. They are somewhat dry documents. But the people who file these documents are aware that to file false information knowingly is a crime. You may or may not want to consult with them.
 
mqt said:
So wouldn’t you agree it’s wholly irresponsible for public figures on the right to promote these conspiracies given the obvious understanding that no matter what we find out later their audience will cling to those conspiracies?
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I agree that it's irresponsible.

Do you agree that it's irresponsible when the left and their MSM counterparts do it? If so, do you speak out against it or do you only speak out when the right does it?
 
ESP47 said:
I agree that it's irresponsible.

Do you agree that it's irresponsible when the left and their MSM counterparts do it? If so, do you speak out against it or do you only speak out when the right does it?
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I’m pretty sure I’ve done so in the past on this forum, yes. This particular forum doesn’t exactly lack for people speaking out against the Left, though.
 
Is this story still in the news cycle? I can’t even fathom why there is still any interest in it.

Time to move on, friends.
 
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