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Simmons defense is still much better than Dansby's.

Andrelton is not hitting that good this year, but Dansby has been below league average as a hitter in every full season he's played. The only times Dans has been around league average was last year in 60 game shortened season, and his first season of less than 40 games.

Right... Simmons put up 2 5+ fWAR seasons after leaving... was one of the worst value for value trades in recent memory
 
Simmons defense is still much better than Dansby's.

Andrelton is not hitting that good this year, but Dansby has been below league average as a hitter in every full season he's played. The only times Dans has been around league average was last year in 60 game shortened season, and his first season of less than 40 games.

Pretty accurate
 
I loved Simmons. Trade seemed pretty good then. Newcomb’s peak was that 8 2/3 innings of no hit ball vs. the Dodgers.

I don’t think that trade ever seemed good. We took Aybar back, which was dumb, and Newcomb never did much to convince anyone except the hard-core rose-glasses crowd who said “he’s a cold-weather guy, so he’ll be a late bloomer” when it was pretty clear he couldn’t consistently throw strikes. That near-flawless game against LA was one of, like, 2 good outings for him that year. The fact that we subsequently fleeced the DBacks for Swanson doesn’t change the fact that we got nothing approaching our money’s worth for Simmons.
 
I don’t think that trade ever seemed good. We took Aybar back, which was dumb, and Newcomb never did much to convince anyone except the hard-core rose-glasses crowd who said “he’s a cold-weather guy, so he’ll be a late bloomer” when it was pretty clear he couldn’t consistently throw strikes. That near-flawless game against LA was one of, like, 2 good outings for him that year. The fact that we subsequently fleeced the DBacks for Swanson doesn’t change the fact that we got nothing approaching our money’s worth for Simmons.

Completely forgot the Aybar part. Guess I mentally blocked that out. I just mean at the time the trade was actually made, it didn’t seem bad at all. Never been impressed with him since.
 
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