The SCOTUS Nomination and Confirmation Thread

BedellBrave said:
haha

Well you didn't get Garland because you didn't control the Senate, just the presidency.

And y'all couldn't get the Notorious RBG to retire before Trump.

Again, no worries. You'll soon have both the Senate and presidency and so you'll be able to do whatever y'all would like to do. Why are you going bat-**** crazy?
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In what way do you think this is me going bat**** crazy?

Calling out truth is being labeled as crazy these days I guess


Guess it happens when religious groups get in bed with trump
 
chop2chip said:
I totally understand why Democrats are upset about Garland. Mitch and Co. boxed themselves into a corner with the justification they used. On the surface, it’s total hypocrisy in the name of partisanship. Mitch should have just been more blatantly truthful in why they wouldn’t confirm Garland.

With that said, the level of doom and gloom over a perfectly legal and reasonable confirmation process is off putting. If Democrats want to find a way to fire up a mid-term red wave, this is how that is done.
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Everything is always the end of the world.

Net Neutrality = death of the internet

Trump tax cuts = we're all gonna die

Leaving the Paris accord = America will go underwater

climate change = world ends in 2030

Coronavirus = even if you don't know you have it you will kill someone else

Trump election = end of democracy as we know it oh and also nuclear wars

Cop kills a black man = the entire country is systemically racist and we must go through reeducation camps to solve it

Kavanaugh gets confirmed = end of democracy as we know it

ACB gets confirmed = end of democracy as we know oh and also end of aborted babies forever

......

Imagine living your life with this type of worldview... it's exhausting
 
goldfly said:
You really aren’t smart

Which makes it weird when you try to act like you are and then tell everyone else they are dumb

My court packing by Republicans statement and vacancies in the courts wasnt talking about Supreme Court
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You asked why there were court vacancies... and then said something about gerrymandering which I have no clue what you're talking about there

Maybe if the Dems won the Senate in 2014, 2016, or 2018, they would have more say in this process.
 
chop2chip said:
I totally understand why Democrats are upset about Garland. Mitch and Co. boxed themselves into a corner with the justification they used. On the surface, it’s total hypocrisy in the name of partisanship. Mitch should have just been more blatantly truthful in why they wouldn’t confirm Garland.

With that said, the level of doom and gloom over a perfectly legal and reasonable confirmation process is off putting. If Democrats want to find a way to fire up a mid-term red wave, whining and threatening to pack the courts is how that is done.
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They are threatening to do what they would have the legal and constitutional right to do. If Republicans dont like it they have a simple solution, dont be so ****ty that voters decide they deserve to control no branches of the federal government. Like Republicans say, voters should get to decide. That's what this is. I 100% promise you it wont happen. Biden is a feckless moron. The only reason he wont outright commit to not doing it now is to appease the "left". I will make sure to add this to the growing list of things that were supposed to happen under a Biden Presidency so we can keep track.
 
sturg33 said:
You asked why there were court vacancies... and then said something about gerrymandering which I have no clue what you're talking about there

Maybe if the Dems won the Senate in 2014, 2016, or 2018, they would have more say in this process.
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Cool man

Bang up replies like usual from the bootlicker
 
cajunrevenge said:
They are threatening to do what they would have the legal and constitutional right to do. If Republicans dont like it they have a simple solution, dont be so ****ty that voters decide they deserve to control no branches of the federal government. Like Republicans say, voters should get to decide. That's what this is. I 100% promise you it wont happen. Biden is a feckless moron. The only reason he wont outright commit to not doing it now is to appease the "left". I will make sure to add this to the growing list of things that were supposed to happen under a Biden Presidency so we can keep track.
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I agree that court packing is constitutional and legal. I also think it would fire up conservatives to vote in record numbers in the next mid-term and hurt Kampala’s election chances in 2024.

The moderates still determine who win elections at the margins. The crazies on the far left and far right will vote with party lines regardless.
 
that's not true

far left doesn't vote party lines.

right wing will sell their souls and always vote R though no matter what

well, some are moving to biden this time but it ain't often and is how we end up with the likes of trump
 
Democrats REALLY need to stop worrying about firing up Republicans. After 8 years of Obama and nominating Hillary the right couldnt have been more fired up and they still got less than 63 million votes. That's 2 million lower than any Democrat has got since 2004 I believe. If it's not court justices it will just be another issue they get all worked up about.



That theory about moderates winning elections is why no one thought Trump could win. I think this election will be a good test on that theory. If it's close then courting moderates means nothing imo. Bidens as moderate as you can get and Trump is as extreme as it gets in terms of serious Presidential candidates. If Biden wins in a blowout then I think the theory holds up. With the way Demographics are shifting Democrats are continuing to gain ground on Republicans. Its virtually impossible for Republicans to win the popular vote barring something extreme and I see no reason that gap wont keep widening. Only through shenanigans have Republicans managed to keep winning despite losing the popular vote. Just a 2 point popular vote advantage had Republicans win by a thread. What happens when its 3 points. Or 4 points. I would argue moderates only matter for Democrats in battleground states.
 
goldfly said:
that's not true

far left doesn't vote party lines.

right wing will sell their souls and always vote R though no matter what

well, some are moving to biden this time but it ain't often and is how we end up with the likes of trump
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Progressives are voting for a dud of a candidate in Biden. They voted for a dud of a candidate in HRC. They’ll end up voting for a dud of a candidate in Kamala in 2024. It doesn’t take much for that wing of the Democratic Party to get riled up to vote against whatever cis white male candidate the GOP nominates.

Republicans would have won the 2016 election with McCain, Romney, or Bush. Trump has always been a lousy candidate whose election was much more of a black swan event rather than anything else.
 
Unless the 2 term President is extremely popular it's very hard for that partly to win a 3rd consecutive term. Political fatigue just sets in and people blame them for every problem whether its their fault or not.
 
In this regard, Trump has been a huge success for the religious right. It is why they have been willing to cast aside even their facade of "righteousness" to support him to the end. All they care about is gay marriage and abortion. Good thing for them that none of their bull**** is true. They won't have to be called to answer for this particular deal with the devil. No, only those of us trying to live our lives here on Earth and make it as pleasant of a place for everyone as possible will have to pay the price. *shrug* Congrats, guys! What an alliance. You are all perfect fine examples of what it is to be a Christian.
 
chop2chip said:
Progressives are voting for a dud of a candidate in Biden. They voted for a dud of a candidate in HRC. They’ll end up voting for a dud of a candidate in Kamala in 2024. It doesn’t take much for that wing of the Democratic Party to get riled up to vote against whatever cis white male candidate the GOP nominates.

Republicans would have won the 2016 election with McCain, Romney, or Bush. Trump has always been a lousy candidate whose election was much more of a black swan event rather than anything else.
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Stahp making sense. People won’t believe you anyway.
 
I think McCain could've done it, perhaps. Bush definitely not. Romney would've had to deal with the hatred for Mormons from the right's religious base like he did before. Maybe he could've still done it, but I doubt it. I actually voted for Romney in the primaries in 2008. I like him.
 
I'm against packing the court. No need to break a broken system even more. Just give these people term limits for ****'s sake. And maybe tweak the requirements a bit so we end up with a better class of people for the job, right or left.
 
chop2chip said:
Progressives are voting for a dud of a candidate in Biden. They voted for a dud of a candidate in HRC. They’ll end up voting for a dud of a candidate in Kamala in 2024. It doesn’t take much for that wing of the Democratic Party to get riled up to vote against whatever cis white male candidate the GOP nominates.

Republicans would have won the 2016 election with McCain, Romney, or Bush. Trump has always been a lousy candidate whose election was much more of a black swan event rather than anything else.
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Disagree on the second paragraph. None of those guys had the enthusiasm or would had gotten the base rallied up like Trump did. A lot of Trump supporters are sick the hypocritical left, the constant race baiting and the decay of this countries value. Those buffoons you listed wouldnt had touched on those subjects.
 
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