The Siege of Minneapolis

At worst, they provoked an unnecessarily aggressive confrontation with someone who was merely addressing an injured bystander that culminated in them shooting him 10 times despite an officer having already retrieved his sole firearm. That’s a far cry from a mistake in judgment and it’s certainly one possible outcome here.

1st of all, the guy was interfering in the arrest of an illegal immigrant woman. According to the agents she was not an innocent bystander.

2nd, the other men may not have known of their partner disarming him or saw sudden movement of the guy's arm and though he had another weapon.

3rd, How about you liberal clowns hold off on judgment until we know all of the facts?

Yes, if they thought the guy was going after a gun you shoot him at will. Emptying the chamber isn't a bad idea.
 
1st of all, the guy was interfering in the arrest of an illegal immigrant woman. According to the agents she was not an innocent bystander.

2nd, the other men may not have known of their partner disarming him or saw sudden movement of the guy's arm and though he had another weapon.

3rd, How about you liberal clowns hold off on judgment until we know all of the facts?

Yes, if they thought the guy was going after a gun you shoot him at will. Emptying the chamber isn't a bad idea.
Are you familiar with what the phrase “at worst” actually means? These are things we can see are possibilities on camera. I’m happy to wait for the investigation, but it’s not a controversial take to suggest the justification for use of lethal force here was questionable at best.
 
Are you familiar with what the phrase “at worst” actually means? These are things we can see are possibilities on camera. I’m happy to wait for the investigation, but it’s not a controversial take to suggest the justification for use of lethal force here was questionable at best.

It's definitely questionable but many people on your side are yelling murder at the top of their lung with nothing more than heavily pixelated video.

The agents' body cams will decide the case.
 
It's definitely questionable but many people on your side are yelling murder at the top of their lung with nothing more than heavily pixelated video.

The agents' body cams will decide the case.
And many on the other side, including the Trump Administration, are calling him a domestic terrorist who tried to assassinate as many ICE agents as possible. Maybe take them to task for their response to the same pixelated video?
 
Here you go Garm.


gun was tucked behind his hip/back. You clearly see one of the agents disarm him and walk away.

Then you see agent on left pull out gun while/AFTER he was disarmed.

Fires one shot.

More shots fired, and continued firing while his body was on the ground.

The other angles from the other side show that same agent take his gun and walk off.

Again, 5-6 agents to restrain one man, and then unload 10 bullets.

We can't call a spade a spade.

Guy still had his phone in his hand.

I'm sure we'll never see the video from his phone.
 
Here you go Garm.


gun was tucked behind his hip/back. You clearly see one of the agents disarm him and walk away.

Then you see agent on left pull out gun while/AFTER he was disarmed.

Fires one shot.

More shots fired, and continued firing while his body was on the ground.

The other angles from the other side show that same agent take his gun and walk off.

Again, 5-6 agents to restrain one man, and then unload 10 bullets.

We can't call a spade a spade.

Guy still had his phone in his hand.

I'm sure we'll never see the video from his phone.

As I said above the other agents might not have known the gun was taken or saw sudden movement from his arm and suspected he was going for another weapon.

This is a chaotic situation that's extremely dangerous and you expect the cops to be aware of everything that's occurring and make 100% correct split decisions.

Yes, there is a sudden movement with his right arm and that's when the shooting started (what I interpret with all of the pixelization going on. I could be wrong.)
 
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As I said above the other agents might not have known the gun was taken or saw sudden movement from his arm and suspected he was going for another weapon.

This is a chaotic situation that's extremely dangerous and you expect the cops to be aware of everything that's occurring and make 100% correct split decisions.

Yes, there is a sudden movement with his right arm and that's when the shooting started (what I interpret with all of the pixelization going on. I could be wrong.)

If you think anything you just said justified them firing 10 bullets in to him, I don't know what to tell you.

He was outnumbered 5-6 to 1.

He was pepper sprayed, had a phone in his hand.

If you think that's normal and that the "split decision making" was so tense it required a man standing tall over a guy on his knees with two other men restraining him down to fire multiple rounds... well we just need to reevaluate everyone who has a badge.

That shouldn't be normal or the procedure at all.

If these agents can't restrain a skinny hipster white guy without resorting to 10 bullets, then how can they even be qualified to take down the "bad guys" and "violent gang members" we were told they're supposedly hunting down?
 
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