The Trump Presidency

thethe said:
We've answered this numerous times but you either puposely fail to realize or are not able to understand how economics work.
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There then is no policy - just a feeling of "confidence".

Trump inherited a sustainable economy, witness the past year. Draw us apicture of the Trump economy in 3 years. Because there is nothing to point to that supports the future sustainability of this bubble. Besides initiative and policy he inherited

Is there a tax policy we missed? Or has he negotiated a trade deal ? Has he initiated support for a growing industry? Shoot, is there a new use for coal ?
Renegotiated a fossil fuel deal with the Saudi's ?

Anything - please
 
cajunrevenge said:
Rand is playing the game so he can run for president. His father fought the good fight and never compromised on his beliefs. That got him blacklisted by the media and even got the RNC to change the rules mid primary.

Rand has his eye on 2024 and he wants the establishments support. The main factors in early polls are name value and likability. He is getting a **** tin if face time and is well respected by Trumps base. One if the few people who can criticize Trump without Trump firing back.
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Rand ain't gonna be President
 
57Brave said:
There then is no policy - just a feeling of "confidence".

Trump inherited a sustainable economy, witness the past year. Draw us apicture of the Trump economy in 3 years. Because there is nothing to point to that supports the future sustainability of this bubble. Besides initiative and policy he inherited

Is there a tax policy we missed? Or has he negotiated a trade deal ? Has he initiated support for a growing industry? Shoot, is there a new use for coal ?

Renegotiated a fossil fuel deal with the Saudi's ?

Anything - please
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It's not even worth discussing this with you as it has been demonstrated numerous times. You think government policy drives the economy when it's the opposite. Less government the better. I know that concept slaps in the face of everything you believe but we are witnessing it now.
 
thethe said:
It's not even worth discussing this with you as it has been demonstrated numerous times. You think government policy drives the economy when it's the opposite. Less government the better. I know that concept slaps in the face of everything you believe but we are witnessing it now.
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Except when it comes to NFL players though right?
 
thethe said:
It's not even worth discussing this with you as it has been demonstrated numerous times. You think government policy drives the economy when it's the opposite. Less government the better. I know that concept slaps in the face of everything you believe but we are witnessing it now.
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To a great degree government does drive the economy in many many ways. But that fact is beside the point.
The point was what leads you to believe, no, what data leads you to believe this Wall Street bubble is sustainable ?
 
Speaking of Rand Paul, he's been tangentially connected to a couple of weird stories recently that really say a lot about the current state of American politics, and of the Republican Party in general.

First, the party establishment has now embraced Roy Moore. Roy Moore, who believes that homosexuality should be criminalized, that Muslims should not be allowed to serve in congress, that court orders are optional if you disagree with them...Rand endorsed him.

Second, Dana Rohrabacher visited Julian Assange in London, along with alt-right troll Charles Johnson. Rohrabacher then brought Johnson to a meeting with Rand Paul. Johnson's a Holocaust denier.

Why is this ok?
 
BREAKING: Massachusetts man convicted in plot to behead conservative blogger Pamela Gellar over Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest.
 
Rand is just doing what needs to be done for his portfolio. He realized he'd never win the GOP nomination with libertarian values, so he's slowly picking and choosing which establishment causes to go for, so he can still get some cred for another potential Presidential run.
 
Five Reasons Trump's Widow Story Stings - BBC

1. It cuts against a strength. Trump claimed he would protect the military and be good to vets.

2. It re-enforces a weakness. He has no human skills, a huge part of his job.

3. It makes a bad story worse. 12 days after the soldiers were killed, the WH had yet to issue any statement or tweet.

4. It's more evidence of a sloppy White House.

5. It's another distraction.
 
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lost in the daily cacaphony that is this administration is the evisceration of the EPA.
this:

Another day, another move to upend the Environmental Protection Agency. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt made statements this week that suggest he’s on the verge of removing researchers from the agency’s scientific advisory boards if they’ve received EPA grants. Apparently, scientists who receive such grants are incapable of giving unbiased advice.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...ld-be-kicked-off-the-agency-s-advisory-boards
 
and this interesting overview

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency

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The Olin Mathieson Alkali Works plant (seen in 1968) in the Appalachian town of Saltville, Va,, for decades dumped its calcium chloride effluent into the North Fork of the Holston River which flowed past the plant. In 1970 the company announced it could not meet the new Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) water pollution standards and would close the plant. Robert Alexander—Getty Images

http://time.com/4696104/environmental-protection-agency-1970-history/

Dirty water was only one ingredient. At the close of the 1960s, the United States could not escape the fact of, as TIME put it in 1968, "the relentless degradations of a once virgin continent." The evidence was right in front of citizens' faces. Pollution had gotten bad enough to be undeniable, and science had become advanced enough to make the reasons why clear. In 1963, smog had killed 400 New Yorkers, and Lake Erie's oxygen content had become so depleted that the center of the lake sustained precious little life. An oil spill off the California coast in 1969 coated 400 square miles with slime and killed hundreds of birds. Scientists announced that auto exhaust was at high enough levels in some places that it could cause birth defects. The city of St. Louis smelled, as one resident put it, "like an old-fashioned drugstore on fire."
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...human-traffickers-arrested-across-u-s-n812156

84 Children Rescued, 120 Human Traffickers Arrested Across U.S., FBI Says

The FBI rescued 84 children from the grips of a multi-state human trafficking ring and arrested 120 traffickers Wednesday, announcing the successful sting in a statement.

Operation Cross Country XI focused the attention of law enforcement agencies on a single goal: taking out "pimps" who run human trafficking rings.
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"During operations by FBI Denver's Rocky Mountain Innocence Lost Task Force, for example, a three-month-old girl and her five-year-old sister were recovered after a friend who was staying with the family made a deal with an undercover task force officer to sell both children for sex in exchange for $600," the statement read.
 
Jaw said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...human-traffickers-arrested-across-u-s-n812156

84 Children Rescued, 120 Human Traffickers Arrested Across U.S., FBI Says

The FBI rescued 84 children from the grips of a multi-state human trafficking ring and arrested 120 traffickers Wednesday, announcing the successful sting in a statement.

Operation Cross Country XI focused the attention of law enforcement agencies on a single goal: taking out "pimps" who run human trafficking rings.
.....
"During operations by FBI Denver's Rocky Mountain Innocence Lost Task Force, for example, a three-month-old girl and her five-year-old sister were recovered after a friend who was staying with the family made a deal with an undercover task force officer to sell both children for sex in exchange for $600," the statement read.
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I'm surprised the FBI has time left over after protecting Hillary and chasing Russian ghosts.
 
http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...xt-jfk-document-dump-could-be-a-fiasco-215716

The federal government’s long campaign to try to choke off rampant conspiracy theories about the November 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy is threatening to end this month in massive confusion, if not chaos.

Within the next two weeks, the National Archives is legally obligated to release the last of thousands of secret documents from government files about the assassination, most of them from the CIA, FBI and the Justice Department.

Trump, no stranger to conspiracy theories, including totally unsubstantiated theories about a link between Ted Cruz’s father and JFK’s death, has not yet revealed his plans for the documents. His friend and political adviser Roger Stone, the Republican consultant who is the author of a book claiming that President Lyndon Johnson was the mastermind of the Kennedy assassination, said last week that he has been informed authoritatively that the CIA is urging Trump to delay the release of some of the JFK documents for another 25 years. “They must reflect badly on the CIA even though virtually everyone involved is long dead,” Stone said in a statement on his website.

I am very curious to see what comes of this. The fastest way to fuel even more conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination is to withhold some or all of these files.
 
Trump should now send $25,000 to the family of every fallen soldier while he's in office. Maybe the first decent thing he's done. Dumb, but decent.
 
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