Keep supporting measures that keep minorities down in this country (Endless immigration / Job killing regulation / Anti-business tax policy / etc..)
At some point minorities will catch on to how bad Democrats are for their well being.
The Trump Presidency
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Keep supporting measures that keep minorities down in this country (Endless immigration / Job killing regulation / Anti-business tax policy / etc..)
At some point minorities will catch on to how bad Democrats are for their well being.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Don't think of it as cutting taxes. Think of it as stealing a little bit less from other people. Stealing less is always a good thing.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Wait wait wait wait wait. Now that your guy is out of office, your guy that added more to the national debt than all of the other Presidents combined, now you care about deficits?
I mean, it seems kind of strange that you didn't care about them when we were spending millions on tunnels for turtles to cross the roads, or when we were spending millions on road signs to advertise that the road work was part of the stimulus, or when we were spending millions on figuring out why fat guys are more likely to have erectile dysfunction. You didn't retweet Vox or Mother Jones or DailyKos complaints about all the money we spent to help prepare lesbians to adopt, or to pay college students to keep a journal of how much pot they smoke and how much malt liquor they drink. You were even silent about paying for "socially conscious" puppet shows and for funding a study on the evolution of waterfowl genitalia.
But now that taking less from your fellow Americans' paychecks in taxes may increase the debt it becomes important to you?
57Brave
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Brian SchatzVerified account @brianschatz
3h3 hours ago
Taxing tuition waivers as regular income seems designed to punish people for studying hard. Especially poor people.
sturg33
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... what?
57Brave
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BillMoyers.comVerified account @BillMoyers
30s31 seconds ago
“There are going to be new corporate loopholes, including actual new subsidies for moving profits and jobs overseas.” -@mkink of @StrongForAll Coalition on the GOP tax plan.
http://billmoyers.com/story/ridiculously-unfair-tax-plan/
30s31 seconds ago
“There are going to be new corporate loopholes, including actual new subsidies for moving profits and jobs overseas.” -@mkink of @StrongForAll Coalition on the GOP tax plan.
http://billmoyers.com/story/ridiculously-unfair-tax-plan/
You know how 57 is he's very concerned about our debt. I mean...he expressed his concerns constantly under obama.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
This is perversely punitive. It's a minuscule drop-in-the-bucket to the federal budget, but will meaningfully burden a great many folks simply trying to improve their skills or advance important scholarship. It will keep good students from becoming better students; skilled workers from gaining more skills; it will send brighter folks to better-funded opportunities abroad; it will send public-good research, conducted largely by graduate students in public and private-non-profit research institutions, into the private-for-profit hands of corporate research institutions. It will significantly impinge upon or endanger the quality of life of many of my colleagues. And personally, it may make pursuing doctoral studies after I finish my masters program financially infeasible.
And this isn't about "subsidizing" people's education. One of the most damaging measures is the proposal to tax waived tuition, which simply is not income and should not be taxed as such. Graduate student income—teaching salaries, stipends, et cetera—are already taxed. This is anti-pedagogic score-settling.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Save the speech about how reality actually functions and impinges on people's everyday lives. Got it.
And with all that smarm and self-satisfied trumpeting of your bootstraps, you still didn't even answer my question as much as side-step it.
Let me put it this way: if you have the market the way you want it, and yet there is simply not enough employment for the number of citizens living amongst that marketplace, what do you propose doing for/with them?
sturg33
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I answered your question.
I'd tell them to find a job that meets their skillset, or re-skill.
You can say I'm being smarmy... But I work 60 hours a week and am making time to to better my skillset.
Why can't others do the same?
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Again: Let me put it this way: if you have the market the way you want it, and yet there is simply not enough employment for the number of citizens living amongst that marketplace, what do you propose doing for/with them?
57Brave
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I am fond of the ability of oil companies to drill in preserved areas
sturg33
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Your world philosophy doesn't even allow you to imagine what's possible, and that's quite sad. In your "equal outcome" philosophy, you can only think about how we can subsidize the lack of progress of people.
However, in an economy that is not strangled by needless regulation, wealth is created and growth is had. When this happens, more jobs are created out of necessity, not out of pity. As new technologies and products emerge, new opportunities are created. If we adapt, we will grow. If you're not growing, you're dying.
Even today, technology has advanced so rapidly, that your premise would seem to stand that there aren't enough jobs for people. And yet, here we are, with more Americans working than in the history of the country. This is not an accident. This is because we have created wealth. And we have grown. And people were needed to accelerate that. We would do so much faster if it weren't for our ridiculous tax and regulatory system.
So, I reject your question as even a possibility.
I do not believe we should hire someone to dig a hole, and then hire someone to fill that hole. Do you?
sturg33
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You don't like that the overwhelming majority of tax payers will keep to keep more of their money?