The Trump Presidency

Hawk said:
I meant that, in general, Democrats aren't promoting a substantive alternate political universe to support/exist in by way of their candidates. It's a matter of ... this guy is a Republican (which is an automatic Trump association) and he supports this and that (and a personal attack or two [in Gianforte's case: this rich guy transplanted from New Jersey less than 20 years ago]. Cut.

Quist took no strong position on health care reform except to say ... 'Gianforte supports Trump's plan (oh, and he used to like the ACA .. which I may or may not like ... I'll let you guess).'



This is spineless slop. And, let me tell you, announcing that your candidate had a 'botched gallbladder surgery' (whatever the **** that even means) is not relating to your constituents. It's idiotic.

The 2010 midterms were primarily a referendum on health care. Republicans kind of had it easy, given the failures the ACA experienced early on, and simply announced opposition to it with no real alternative (and look how well that's turned out). Democrats seem to think that they have the same luxury now. I disagree.

One of the reasons Bernie Sanders was such a successful candidate was because he was able to associate important causes (and free things) with his name. Democrats need to follow the same script. Champion one or two issues that resound with every American and aggressively push them. Health care could be one, but they've got to find a way to detach the ACA from the AHCA and unravel it in a way that doesn't seem like they are recycling old work.

The alternative needs to have substance this time. Fooled voters once, but I don't think it will again.
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don't think you read this before pressing "Post Quick Reply "
 
thethe said:
Fun fact...Portland killer was a bernie supporter.
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Somewhat unexpected given Sanders is Jewish, but racist pieces of **** come from all political leanings. It's not really that simple, though. Dude was all over the map.
 
Tax Returns Mother****er

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This will change
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Dumbass bemoans that there are a lot of German cars sold in US.
Forgets or conveniently leaves out those cars are , manufactured in the US

then yells jobs jobs jobs in the next breath.
 
I have a theory (and nothing but a theory) about what is going on regarding Trump and Germany/Merkel. I think there is a good chance that the German authorities as the main regulators of Deutsche Bank have or will eventually come into possession of some information that will be quite derogatory about him. He knows this, she knows this. I suspect the chemistry between the two would not be good aside from the backstory. But the backstory has a chance to be quite explosive.
 
57Brave said:
Tax Returns Mother****er

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This will change
................

Dumbass bemoans that there are a lot of German cars sold in US.
Forgets or conveniently leaves out those cars are , manufactured in the US

then yells jobs jobs jobs in the next breath.
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I have no clue how tax returns has anything to do with the rest of this post.

But keep at it 57
 
nsacpi said:
I have a theory (and nothing but a theory) about what is going on regarding Trump and Germany/Merkel. I think there is a good chance that the German authorities as the main regulators of Deutsche Bank have or will eventually come into possession of some information that will be quite derogatory about him. He knows this, she knows this. I suspect the chemistry between the two would not be good aside from the backstory. But the backstory has a chance to be quite explosive.
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Ive been thinking about something similar ever since this power play started after they met.
 
nsacpi said:
I have a theory (and nothing but a theory) about what is going on regarding Trump and Germany/Merkel. I think there is a good chance that the German authorities as the main regulators of Deutsche Bank have or will eventually come into possession of some information that will be quite derogatory about him. He knows this, she knows this. I suspect the chemistry between the two would not be good aside from the backstory. But the backstory has a chance to be quite explosive.
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Eh, I doubt that it's possible that there's any "derogatory information" out there about the president. Let's be honest, what are the chances? ;)
 
BedellBrave said:
I think he rather relishes the derogatory, don't you? It'll only be criminal information that will matter if there is any.
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Definitely. Any kind of attention is good attention to him. Even criminal evidence, if there is any, won't matter to him, as long as the Repubs control Congress and they'll stand behind to and/or at least protect him until they have all their own Draconian style "Gilded Age" legislation through then they'll either turn on him or just (accidentally) miss one left wing nut job through the defensive network. That way they can get rid of him after he's served his purpose and hang the crime around the neck of the far left and they can keep Pence or another one of their stooges in office for another 2 or 3 terms (at least). By then the whole country will be a Charleton Heston movie from the 70s.
 
Seeing a lot of pushback about Seth Rich's murder lately. Really making me think there is something to it. How can police and the media be so confident about what happened when they don't know who killed him. I don't think the Trump campaign should be rules out anymore than The DNC. For a "botched robbery" the killer seems to have done a fantastic job of not leaving any useful evidence. If your willing to kill someone for money you would think they would take a few extra seconds to take his wallet. If I was going to order a killing I know I would want to make it look like a botched robbery. If you actually take something of his then you have to dispose of it and that is evidence that can be used to find you.

Has Assange or Wikileaks ever offered a reward for information about a murder other than this one? With all the dirty **** the Clintons have done I don't see why they wouldn't stoop to murder. I wouldn't put it past Trump to have had Rich killed just to try and make the Clintons look guilty. Both sides have indirectly killed and/or enslaved millions and people but I am supposed to believe they are above murdering one person?
 
cajunrevenge said:
Seeing a lot of pushback about Seth Rich's murder lately. Really making me think there is something to it. How can police and the media be so confident about what happened when they don't know who killed him. I don't think the Trump campaign should be rules out anymore than The DNC. For a "botched robbery" the killer seems to have done a fantastic job of not leaving any useful evidence. If your willing to kill someone for money you would think they would take a few extra seconds to take his wallet. If I was going to order a killing I know I would want to make it look like a botched robbery. If you actually take something of his then you have to dispose of it and that is evidence that can be used to find you.

Has Assange or Wikileaks ever offered a reward for information about a murder other than this one? With all the dirty **** the Clintons have done I don't see why they wouldn't stoop to murder. I wouldn't put it past Trump to have had Rich killed just to try and make the Clintons look guilty. Both sides have indirectly killed and/or enslaved millions and people but I am supposed to believe they are above murdering one person?
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This would be one of many convenient deaths linked to Clinton controversies.
 
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you left off

pulling out of Paris Climate agreement
Curtsied to Saudi King
Named a serial liar Attorney General
Turned the Department of Education into an arm of AMWAY
Lost his National Security adviser to Russian espionage scandal
about to lose nepotistic adviser Kushner to, Russian espionage
derailed health insurance for 24 million people
lost an aircraft carrier
gave Putin the keys to the White House executive washroom
made Mike Pence fib
gave Sean Spicer a noogie
etc etc etc

Let's keep our eyes on the ball here

wonder if there is anyone who cares what any of those above people say or think ?
Sarah Silverman ... ?
really
 
I didn't expect a mealy-mouthed response from you, 57.

Nope. Not at all.

You make talking out of both sides of the mouth an art form.
 
Hawk said:
I didn't expect a mealy-mouthed response from you, 57.

Nope. Not at all.

You make talking out of both sides of the mouth an art form.
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resorting to Kathy Griffin meme's and quotes from others that make their living either entertaining or playing pretend is now taken as political discourse -- I must have missed that memo
my bad

I know KG is on New Years Eve because I see on media how she plays a fool but, who takes her seriously other than those that wish to exploit her foolishness
Like Benny Johnson and of course, Donald Trump.

What happened, couldn't find a Rosie O'Donnel quip ?
C'mon Hawk, the deeper we get into TrumpWorld the more your game is slipping
Shoot, we aren't even 15% into this yet
 
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