Can you find 100 more? Because that's a portion what Trump has faced.
The Trump Presidency
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Can you find 100 more? Because that's a portion what Trump has faced.
This is not normal:
So these are facts which state there was collusion with russia?
57Brave
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It is kinda funny. The free pass some give Trump.
Do you know why the media firestorm follows Trump?
given it any thought ?
This from Runnin'
This was one 9 day trip. Also during that trip it was discovered his son in law/ advisor illegally had contact with a foreign entity.
And pulled a dick move on Spicey
57Brave
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You really don't know how this works
Gosh,
Watergate break in was in June of 1972. the burglars were arrested. Within weeks it was established they were in "collusion" with the White house.
Nixon resigned in August of 1974. 26 months
All The Presidents Men is a chronicles the process of how the establishment of "collusion " becomes fact
You ought to read it. But for you, they made a movie
Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
People in covfefe houses shouldn't throw covfefe.
9:30PM tonight.
Now don't hand us any bull**** about not 'know[ing] she was out of her pajamas' ... because we all know that you use the Twitters pretty well ... for baby boomer.
cajunrevenge
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Watching the new season of house of cards and it's getting a little to real. Fake chemical attacks in Syria as an excuse to attack..... right now desperately looking for leaks..... Russian meddling in the election.....
Please no spoilers. Have a 14 hour flight in a few days and will be binge watching the entire season.
Runnin
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I believe that Trump has received much better press coverage than he should have from the start. The liberal side of the media treated him easy for ratings and because they didn't believe he could win. Since swearing in he's received what any President would, sharks in the water on a daily basis. What makes it seem like the media is against him is because he's such a wonderful gaffe and blunder machine. Any President who acts like he does would get the same. But that would all be meaningless if he were doing his job. He isn't. He's clueless how to govern and how to run his office effectively. His press coverage would normalize if he could at least show the world some normalcy.
The Russia stuff is ALL of his own making.
My facts about the Russian scandal (and I don't even follow the daily smoke and mirrors):
1. Trump has an odd and suspicious affinity for Putin and Russian style politik. (This alone would mean little.)
2. Hackers who appeared to be Russian hacked the Dem headquarters and seemed to try and hurt Hillary and help Trump be elected.
3. Mike Flynn had dubious meetings with the Russian Ambassador, setting off a small tsunami of lies about it to folks both inside and outside of the WH.
4. The WH thought it was serious enough that they had Flynn resign.
5. Trump tried to prevent Sally Yates from testifying.
6. Trump tried to get Comey to drop the investigation.
7. Trump's team talks to Russia A LOT. It's either normal business or it's not. Considering the idea that Russia means the US no good and they would only be talking to Trump for what he might be willing to do for Russia and Putin, it's worth looking into.
8. Paul Manafort. 'Nuff said.
9. Trump publicly asked for Russia's help against Clinton. Tongue in cheek? Perhaps, but he was stupid enough to do it, drawing even more attention to the issue.
10. Trump says it's all "fake news". Since we know for a fact that he is a liar, we should uncover every rock to find out.
11. Trump went to war with the press by calling them fake. This is right out of the KGB (and any dictator's) playbook and should be a giant red flag that he is up to no good.
Apparently there is a lot more dubious and circumstantial evidence. That's more than enough to have a serious investigation. The real facts and evidence come after the investigation, not before.
I believe that Trump has received much better press coverage than he should have from the start. The liberal side of the media treated him easy for ratings and because they didn't believe he could win. Since swearing in he's received what any President would, sharks in the water on a daily basis. What makes it seem like the media is against him is because he's such a wonderful gaffe and blunder machine. Any President who acts like he does would get the same. But that would all be meaningless if he were doing his job. He isn't. He's clueless how to govern and how to run his office effectively. His press coverage would normalize if he could at least show the world some normalcy.
The Russia stuff is ALL of his own making.
My facts about the Russian scandal (and I don't even follow the daily smoke and mirrors):
1. Trump has an odd and suspicious affinity for Putin and Russian style politik. (This alone would mean little.)
2. Hackers who appeared to be Russian hacked the Dem headquarters and seemed to try and hurt Hillary and help Trump be elected.
3. Mike Flynn had dubious meetings with the Russian Ambassador, setting off a small tsunami of lies about it to folks both inside and outside of the WH.
4. The WH thought it was serious enough that they had Flynn resign.
5. Trump tried to prevent Sally Yates from testifying.
6. Trump tried to get Comey to drop the investigation.
7. Trump's team talks to Russia A LOT. It's either normal business or it's not. Considering the idea that Russia means the US no good and they would only be talking to Trump for what he might be willing to do for Russia and Putin, it's worth looking into.
8. Paul Manafort. 'Nuff said.
9. Trump publicly asked for Russia's help against Clinton. Tongue in cheek? Perhaps, but he was stupid enough to do it, drawing even more attention to the issue.
10. Trump says it's all "fake news". Since we know for a fact that he is a liar, we should uncover every rock to find out.
11. Trump went to war with the press by calling them fake. This is right out of the KGB (and any dictator's) playbook and should be a giant red flag that he is up to no good.
Apparently there is a lot more dubious and circumstantial evidence. That's more than enough to have a serious investigation. The real facts and evidence come after the investigation, not before.
Pretty much all of those points are circumstantial.
This investigation has been going on for months. ITs only beginning now? Thats convenient.
57Brave
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Until a verdict or a plea unless there is a direct confession all investigations are to a degree circumstantial
The Congressional investigation, what there is of it , is overseen by a (R) Congress ( how convenient) that on the House side has shown no inclination to investigate. If you remember (or if yo ever knew) the (R) Chair to the Intel Committee had to recuse himself for sharing investigation findings and proceedings trying to gain favor with Trump officials, Nunes is his name.
Google him
My understanding is a Virginia and New York Grand Jury are looking into Trump Campaign finances
The Attorney General had to recuse himself for lying about contacts with Russian agents
The Assistant AG was fired for asking too many questions. Or as Mitch McConnell would say , "she persisted"
FBI Director too was fired for, "persisting"
The Senate that on normal times moves at a snail pace is ready to begin public interviews.
A Special Prosecutor was named two weeks ago.
Perhaps your expectations are unreasonable
Do you understand how Congressional Investigations proceed ?
Again, reading something as pedestrian as All The Presidents Men would enhance your perceptions.
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No one knows the facts. That is why there must be investigations.
Like Runnin said, you can't have facts until the investigations conclude.
Even then, the accused get their day in court. Which takes even more time
Like I said, this played out over 26 months with Nixon.
57Brave
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Can you tell me by name and jurisdiction what "less regulations" contributed to the jobs report ?
There are reports of deregulation Trump has promised but no record of them being implemented .
Even if signed by executive order they would take months to actually go into effect
57Brave
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Representative Devin Nunes is still the chair of the House Intelligence Committee, and he’s once-again using that position in an attempt to cripple the House investigation into connections between Trump and Russia.
After the embarrassing round-robin of exaggerations, mischaracterizations, and flat-out lies Nunes proffered in an attempt to support Trump’s baseless claims that he had been “wiretapped” by President Obama, Nunes was eventually forced to recuse himself from the Trump–Russia investigation. But on Wednesday Nunes not only ignored his recusal, he violated House rules to issue a series of subpoenas designed to, once again, give cover to lies pumped out by Trump.
Committee aides complained that the chairman, Representative Devin Nunes, who publicly recused himself from leading the Russia probe in April following a secret visit he paid to White House officials, failed to consult Democrats on the subpoenas.
The subpoenas asked the agencies to provide details of any requests made by two top Obama administration aides and the former CIA director to "unmask" names of Trump campaign advisers inadvertently picked up in top-secret foreign communications intercepts, congressional sources said.
Nunes move is against the rules, beside the point, and entirely designed to obstruct the actual investigation.
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Perhaps you would like to delete the "how convenient" comment
After the embarrassing round-robin of exaggerations, mischaracterizations, and flat-out lies Nunes proffered in an attempt to support Trump’s baseless claims that he had been “wiretapped” by President Obama, Nunes was eventually forced to recuse himself from the Trump–Russia investigation. But on Wednesday Nunes not only ignored his recusal, he violated House rules to issue a series of subpoenas designed to, once again, give cover to lies pumped out by Trump.
Committee aides complained that the chairman, Representative Devin Nunes, who publicly recused himself from leading the Russia probe in April following a secret visit he paid to White House officials, failed to consult Democrats on the subpoenas.
The subpoenas asked the agencies to provide details of any requests made by two top Obama administration aides and the former CIA director to "unmask" names of Trump campaign advisers inadvertently picked up in top-secret foreign communications intercepts, congressional sources said.
Nunes move is against the rules, beside the point, and entirely designed to obstruct the actual investigation.
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Perhaps you would like to delete the "how convenient" comment
Trump's jobs reports have either been roughly the same as Obama's last few years or lower.
What is Juncker going to do to stop the United States from withdrawing?
This kind of verbal foreplay gets nationalists (and, really, isolationists) excited, especially given the America mockery and the 'German principal clauses' smarminess.
I think they are plenty of people in the United States - you know, as evidenced by the vote - who would be perfectly fine allowing Europe to swim on its own.
You might have to live with expensive French reds for a while, but according to jpx Maricopa is on the rise.
Speaking of jobs, check your PM.
Runnin
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Even clear evidence doesn't matter as long as the GOP controls Congress. And I'm sure that they've seen plenty.