cajunrevenge
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You know Comey wasnt involved because they didnt give everyone blanked immunity without requiring information that leads to a criminal prosecution.
Any reason for concern with Comey stating he had no knowledge of wiretapping?
no. because the question was if trump was wiretapped. and he wasn't. what is so difficult to understand about this. the moron lied to and deceived you. you can stop believing it.
Any reason for concern with Comey stating he had no knowledge of wiretapping?
I'd like to see a quote that said "I have no knowledge of wiretapping."
The quote that I have some recollection of his making was to the effect, "There is no evidence that I know of that supports the view that Trump was wiretapped."
Please correct me if you have more information.
1. Not sure what you're saying here. Just because you've continued to paint worst-case scenarios about the provenance of the warrant doesn't make it so. You're throwing around words like "critically" and "incautiously," while tossing out speculation that's even less grounded in fact.
2. The predecessor alternative to FISA was just eavesdropping with zero oversight. So yeah, better.
3. Ok, fair enough. It's an interesting application of Occam's razor, though, to say that his contacts are easily explained away but not that the same circumstances (extensive connections to the oligarchy, willingness to operate off the books and in the legal grey, money problems) make him appear a reasonable locus of suspicion.
What you're saying, Hawk, is that the top people at both the FBI and the DOJ signed off on a spurious warrant based on innocent conversations with foreign intelligence agents, so that the Obama White House could peruse the Trump campaign's playbook.
This is what you have said, while throwing around words like "incautious" and "uncritical."
Considering trump owns the tower if any connection's were tapped then his claim easy right.
Trump said his wires were tapped at trump tower. He owns all wires. Comey should have known that manafort was being monitored while staying in trump tower.
Am I thinking about this the wrong way?
This.
All day and all night.
If any line in Trump's building was wiretapped (especially if his campaign manager's office lines were included) then his claim is unequivocally vindicated here.
I think Trump is capable of understanding the distinction between himself and another resident in his building and that his claim referred to the former.
I think Trump is capable of understanding the distinction between himself and another resident in his building and that his claim referred to the former.
But hi claim is that the Trump tower wires were tapped. 'His' wires. I don't see how it's a stretch to say that manafort wires at trump are also trumps.
Therefore, Comey either don't know this operation was taking place or willfully lied to congress. Neither is good and each have a large damaging back story that the American people deserve to know.
Yeah, I understand the point you are making, but even as a matter of technicality Trump is still right. It's his building/property.
That being said, Manafort is not just another resident. And we're not sure to what extent the Tower was wired up.
I think Trump is capable of understanding the distinction between himself and another resident in his building and that his claim referred to the former.
I don't think he said the Trump Tower wires were tapped.
To make an adjudication as to whether he was right or not one would have to venture into his mind to know what he was talking about. I am not inclined to undertake such a journey. But from my vantage point there is a distinction between Trump and Trump Tower. From my vantage point again, it appears to me that Trump understands that there is such a distinction and that when he was referring to "my wires" he was talking about a wiretap on his communications not those of a tenant in his building.
All wires in trump tower are his wires.
If we (eventually) learn that Manafort's lines on the 14th floor (campaign offices) were tapped would that be due cause for you to reconsider the journey?