Lol...people miss their trials and think they shouldnt be kicked out.
And we pretend like this is a bad thing. Get in line like everyone else.
The Trump Presidency
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Lol...people miss their trials and think they shouldnt be kicked out.
And we pretend like this is a bad thing. Get in line like everyone else.
57Brave
Well-known member
1933-1938
Gypsies (Roma and Sinti) were persecuted before, during and after the Holocaust.
Following the Nazi rise to power, the persecution of all Gypsies in Germany increased, and eventually became genocidal. Prior to the Second World War, approximately 30,000 Gypsies were lived in Germany, and just under a million lived across Europe.
The Nazis believed Gypsies were ‘non-Aryan’ and an inferior race, which had genetically inherited criminal qualities.
This belief was reinforced by the research of the eugenic scientist Dr. Robert Ritter. As a result of Ritter’s research, the Nazis subjected many Gypsies to forced sterilisations to prevent them from having children.
On 17 June 1936, Heinrich Himmler became Head of the German Police. This new role gave Himmler unlimited control over the terror forces in Germany.
Just under two years later, on the 16 May 1938, Himmler established the Reich Central Office for Combating the Gypsy Nuisance. This office centralised efforts to persecute Gypsies living in the Third Reich.
On the 8 December 1938, Himmler issued the Decree for Combating the Gypsy Plague. Amongst other actions, the decree ordered the creation of a nationwide database to all Gypsies living in the Third Reich. This database would later be used to round up Gypsies and put them in forced labour and concentration camps.
Alongside these developments, in the second half of the 1930s, a large number of holding camps were created.
These camps designated certain areas of the cities or towns where Gypsies could live. The camps were created individually by the different regional governments, varying from city to city and between states.
The initial Gypsy camps were portrayed as a move to clean up inner cities and remove any unauthorised dwellings in municipal areas, which often attracted complaints. The camps varied hugely, but most had limited sanitation and were guarded by a police or SS officer. At this stage, most people were free to enter and leave the camps for work or leisure. Despite this, the camps still marked a large escalation in the persecution of Gypsies, and a huge infringement on people’s freedom and privacy.
This was, however, simply the beginning. Following the outbreak of the Second World War, the nature of the camps changed. The rules became stricter, with increased supervision, curfews, and daily head counts of the occupants. In October 1939, a decree was issued banning the movement of Gypsies. People in the camps also became subject to compulsory labour.
1939-1945
The Nazi policy towards the Gypsy population fluctuated following the outbreak of war.
Whilst the Nazis policy towards Gypsies remained persecutory, the Nazis were unsure whether to deport the Gypsies – resettling them in the General Government in Poland – sterilise the entire population to avoid any more Gypsies being born, or exterminate them.
Due to the complicated bureaucratic nature of the regime, almost all of these methods were employed towards the Gypsies at one stage.
For example, on 27 April 1940, Heydrich issued the Decree for the Resettlement of the Gypsies, which aimed to deport all German Gypsies from the Reich within one year. This decree resulted in 2500 people being deported to the General Government in Poland, before it was suspended in September 1940.
In September 1941, 5,000 Austrian Gypsies were deported to the Łódź Ghetto, where many of them died from infection or were murdered.
On 16 December 1942, a decree was issued by Himmler to move all Sinti and Roma in Reich Territory to Auschwitz, where a special camp had been built to hold them. Following the order, more than 22,000 Roma and Sinti were rounded up and sent. Just a few would survive.
A number of medical experimentations took place on Gypsies in the various concentration camps they ended up in, ranging from the infamous experiments by Dr. Joseph Mengele at Auschwitz, to typhus injections at Natzweilier.
Gypsies were also murdered in their thousands by the Einsatzgruppen.
The Einsatzgruppen conducted mass shootings of any ‘undesirable’ groups in occupied territories, following behind the invading German Army
Gypsies (Roma and Sinti) were persecuted before, during and after the Holocaust.
Following the Nazi rise to power, the persecution of all Gypsies in Germany increased, and eventually became genocidal. Prior to the Second World War, approximately 30,000 Gypsies were lived in Germany, and just under a million lived across Europe.
The Nazis believed Gypsies were ‘non-Aryan’ and an inferior race, which had genetically inherited criminal qualities.
This belief was reinforced by the research of the eugenic scientist Dr. Robert Ritter. As a result of Ritter’s research, the Nazis subjected many Gypsies to forced sterilisations to prevent them from having children.
On 17 June 1936, Heinrich Himmler became Head of the German Police. This new role gave Himmler unlimited control over the terror forces in Germany.
Just under two years later, on the 16 May 1938, Himmler established the Reich Central Office for Combating the Gypsy Nuisance. This office centralised efforts to persecute Gypsies living in the Third Reich.
On the 8 December 1938, Himmler issued the Decree for Combating the Gypsy Plague. Amongst other actions, the decree ordered the creation of a nationwide database to all Gypsies living in the Third Reich. This database would later be used to round up Gypsies and put them in forced labour and concentration camps.
Alongside these developments, in the second half of the 1930s, a large number of holding camps were created.
These camps designated certain areas of the cities or towns where Gypsies could live. The camps were created individually by the different regional governments, varying from city to city and between states.
The initial Gypsy camps were portrayed as a move to clean up inner cities and remove any unauthorised dwellings in municipal areas, which often attracted complaints. The camps varied hugely, but most had limited sanitation and were guarded by a police or SS officer. At this stage, most people were free to enter and leave the camps for work or leisure. Despite this, the camps still marked a large escalation in the persecution of Gypsies, and a huge infringement on people’s freedom and privacy.
This was, however, simply the beginning. Following the outbreak of the Second World War, the nature of the camps changed. The rules became stricter, with increased supervision, curfews, and daily head counts of the occupants. In October 1939, a decree was issued banning the movement of Gypsies. People in the camps also became subject to compulsory labour.
1939-1945
The Nazi policy towards the Gypsy population fluctuated following the outbreak of war.
Whilst the Nazis policy towards Gypsies remained persecutory, the Nazis were unsure whether to deport the Gypsies – resettling them in the General Government in Poland – sterilise the entire population to avoid any more Gypsies being born, or exterminate them.
Due to the complicated bureaucratic nature of the regime, almost all of these methods were employed towards the Gypsies at one stage.
For example, on 27 April 1940, Heydrich issued the Decree for the Resettlement of the Gypsies, which aimed to deport all German Gypsies from the Reich within one year. This decree resulted in 2500 people being deported to the General Government in Poland, before it was suspended in September 1940.
In September 1941, 5,000 Austrian Gypsies were deported to the Łódź Ghetto, where many of them died from infection or were murdered.
On 16 December 1942, a decree was issued by Himmler to move all Sinti and Roma in Reich Territory to Auschwitz, where a special camp had been built to hold them. Following the order, more than 22,000 Roma and Sinti were rounded up and sent. Just a few would survive.
A number of medical experimentations took place on Gypsies in the various concentration camps they ended up in, ranging from the infamous experiments by Dr. Joseph Mengele at Auschwitz, to typhus injections at Natzweilier.
Gypsies were also murdered in their thousands by the Einsatzgruppen.
The Einsatzgruppen conducted mass shootings of any ‘undesirable’ groups in occupied territories, following behind the invading German Army
57Brave
Well-known member
Disabled people were some of the first persecuted under the Nazis.
The Nazis believed that disabled people did not, and could not, be a part of the German master race. They believed that they were genetically ‘impure’, and a financial burden on the state. Ultimately, this view led to the murder of thousands of disabled people.
The Nazis believed that disabled people did not, and could not, be a part of the German master race. They believed that they were genetically ‘impure’, and a financial burden on the state. Ultimately, this view led to the murder of thousands of disabled people.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Foley needs to go away.
striker42
Well-known member
Republicans don't have a monopoly on this kind of thing. It, like many things, goes back to cognitive dissonance. People are hardwired with the belief of Us = Good, Them = Bad. It's part of being tribal animals. People apply this to politics. The party of their choice is the "us" and the other party is the "them". So members of your political party are good and members of the other political party are bad.
When a member of the party you support does bad things, you're confronted with someone who, as a member of your party, automatically has the "good" label doing bad things. This creates cognitive dissonance. You make excuses for them or are willing to believe it's all a conspiracy.
Conversely, when a member of the opposing party is accused of anything bad, you fall into a confirmation bias and automatically believe it no matter how outlandish.
This is also nothing new. People have pretty much always been apologists for their party and willing to believe anything of the opposition. It even played a role in the Hamilton-Burr Duel.
Ultimately, there are a shocking number of politicians with skeletons in their closets who are given a pass by their own party supporters simply because of the letter next to their name.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Like some said at the time, if Burr had shot Hamilton ten years earlier, he would have been lauded as a hero.
And you're absolutely right. There are moral reprobates in both parties. My comments were directed at Foley in particular and not to cast a wide net of aspersions.
57Brave
Well-known member
Bryan Behar
Verified account @bryanbehar
11h11 hours ago
Mike Pence stormed out of the Colts game because players kneeled. Stormed!
But seeing kids behind bars, desperate men chanting “no showers”— for that he calmly stuck around and told us how well the prisoners were treated.
Verified account @bryanbehar
11h11 hours ago
Mike Pence stormed out of the Colts game because players kneeled. Stormed!
But seeing kids behind bars, desperate men chanting “no showers”— for that he calmly stuck around and told us how well the prisoners were treated.
57Brave
Well-known member
Jeff Tiedrich
@itsJeffTiedrich
Trump tells a Muslim congresswoman to "go back to where you came from,"
then yaps about how wonderful his concentration camps are and is now waddling
his racist ass all over one of his ****ty golf courses. what a fine idea it was to
hand the presidency to a hate crime on two legs
@itsJeffTiedrich
Trump tells a Muslim congresswoman to "go back to where you came from,"
then yaps about how wonderful his concentration camps are and is now waddling
his racist ass all over one of his ****ty golf courses. what a fine idea it was to
hand the presidency to a hate crime on two legs
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
weren't the gypsies descendants of illegal immigrants from a ****hole country
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I dont agree with Pressley, AOC, Ilan and Tlaib on most issues. I find that they sometimes act in bad faith. But this is their country as much as anyone else's. Telling people to go back where they came from is an old and ugly tradition in this country. It is sad we have a president willing to indulge in something like that. It is even sadder to know that many will defend and even applaud this sort of thing. Or attempt to deflect from it.
Its sad we have elected officials that do nothing but bash the country.
57Brave
Well-known member
Jeff Tiedrich
@itsJeffTiedrich
2m2 minutes ago
but how do we know for sure
that the guy who was fined for refusing to rent to black people
and called for a ban on Muslims
and called Mexicans rapists
and called Puerto Ricans lazy
and called for the execution of innocent
black teens is a racist?
if only there were a clear sign
@itsJeffTiedrich
2m2 minutes ago
but how do we know for sure
that the guy who was fined for refusing to rent to black people
and called for a ban on Muslims
and called Mexicans rapists
and called Puerto Ricans lazy
and called for the execution of innocent
black teens is a racist?
if only there were a clear sign
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
let's not forget he also said a federal judge could not be fair and do his job because of his Mexican ancestry
57Brave
Well-known member
I have to laugh (not ha-ha laugh) remembering how people (here) were skeptical of the notion that racism and misogyny were the root of "economic anxiety"
Wasn't it Dennis Green the esteemed coach of the Arizona Cardinals that once quipped
" when they tell you who they are, believe them"
Wasn't it Dennis Green the esteemed coach of the Arizona Cardinals that once quipped
" when they tell you who they are, believe them"
57Brave
Well-known member
Ben Rhodes
Verified account @brhodes
3h3 hours ago
Trump launched his political brand 8 years ago saying the first
African American President was born in Africa.
It has always been about racism,
and the fact that this has ever been a
controversial thing to say is part of the problem.
Is the problem
Verified account @brhodes
3h3 hours ago
Trump launched his political brand 8 years ago saying the first
African American President was born in Africa.
It has always been about racism,
and the fact that this has ever been a
controversial thing to say is part of the problem.
Is the problem
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