The Trump Presidency

The Chosen One said:
The game of politics flies over your head so much. Cajun has been a Ron Paul libertarian for years, but even he is not as obtuse as you when it comes to how much of a threat Donald and his ilk are to our country in the short and long term. He seems to understand practicality on a level you have yet discover.

What's that phrase you used to coin to 57 all the time? "Please leave the economic discussion to the adults in the room". Can we at some point use the phrase "Leave the political discussion to the adults" for you?
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Between Donald Trump and every alternative your party wants instead, the Dems want to completely takec ontrol of my life. They literally laugh at the idea of following the constitution.

You can keep crying about how Trump hurts your feelings or is an embarrassment to this country... but for the most part, hes left me the **** alone which is what this country was founded on.

As I've explained 1,000 times, I didnt vote for him, I wont vote for him. But yall have let a man you will never meet completely dictate your sanity and it's pretty sad.

But, as is, I look forward to seeing how the most recent "this is big" news plays out. Looking forward to it.
 
nsacpi said:
that's an impressive bag of deflections you have...Gucci makes a line called whataboutism? didn't know that
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I would think assassinating an American citizen might do incalculable damage to our civic fabric and institutions.

I dont think the orange man has topped that yet.

But maybe today's tweet will.
 
The Chosen One said:
What are the impeachable offenses you support and have called for.
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If the dems have hard evidence on collusion, or obstruction, or anything else... I sincerely hope they impeach. Luckily to date Trump hasn't started an illegal war or else I'd want them to impeach on that.

If they dont want to impeach, then they should stop talking about it.

**** or get off the pot.
 
sturg33 said:
I would think assassinating an American citizen might do incalculable damage to our civic fabric and institutions.

I dont think the orange man has topped that yet.

But maybe today's tweet will.
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Americans (born in America) fought for the Germans in World War II (and other Americans have fought against us in other wars, in especially large numbers in the Civil War). They made that choice. No one thought of due process when it came to them. I know it upsets you that your friend Anwar Al-Awlaki got droned. I say good riddance. ymmv
 
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nsacpi said:
Americans (born in America) fought for the Germans in World War II (and other Americans have fought against us in other wars). They made that choice. No one thought of due process when it came to them. I know it upsets you that your friend Anwar Al-Awlaki got droned. I say good riddance. ymmv
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Something something fabrics and institutions
 
sturg33 said:
Between Donald Trump and every alternative your party wants instead, the Dems want to completely takec ontrol of my life.
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that's some serious paranoia dude...better stock up on the guns

but never mind me...TDS has turned me into a socialist
 
sturg33 said:
Because every day is doing more incalculable damage to our fabrics and our institutions.

Like, he apparently agreed to help Ukraine against our friends from Russia
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well...the senate aint convicting and the polls show the public does not support impeachment...but talking about the Chosen One's crimes is a fantastic strategy...he is being Benghazied on a grand scale...what's not to like
 
if being upset about a president doing what he has done is TDS

then i'm fine with it


it's all just gas lighting from what they did with fake **** the 8 years prior over selfie sticks and suits and if he had his feet up on a desk etc

you know, really derangement instead of actual attacks on our ideals and institutions
 
goldfly said:
if being upset about a president doing what he has done is TDS

then i'm fine with it


it's all just gas lighting from what they did with fake **** the 8 years prior over selfie sticks and suits and if he had his feet up on a desk etc

you know, really derangement instead of actual attacks on our ideals and institutions
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it is hard to say who is gaslit and who is gaslighter around here...I have my suspicions
 
I remember being really outraged by the tan suit. I didnt care about wars, or the civil liberties, or mandate, or the fast and furious, or the massive deportations. I was ****ING OUTRAGED over the tan suit!!!

Still am damnit!
 
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nothing to see there...keep on walking

President Trump in a July phone call repeatedly pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden ’s son, urging Volodymyr Zelensky about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer, on a probe, according to people familiar with the matter.

“He told him that he should work with [Mr. Giuliani] on Biden, and that people in Washington wanted to know” whether allegations were true or not, one of the people said. Mr. Trump didn’t mention a provision of foreign aid to Ukraine on the call, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid-pro-quo for his cooperation on any investigation.

In recent months, Mr. Giuliani has mounted an extensive effort to pressure Ukraine to do so. He told The Wall Street Journal he met with an official from the Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office in June in Paris, and met with Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Mr. Zelensky in Madrid in August. Mr. Giuliani told the Journal earlier this month that Mr. Yermak assured him the Ukrainian government would “get to the bottom” of the Biden matter.

The August meeting came weeks before the Trump administration began reviewing the status of $250 million in foreign aid to Ukraine, which the administration released earlier this month. Mr. Giuliani said he wasn’t aware of the issue with the funds to Ukraine at the time of the meeting.
 
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goldfly said:
an out right traitor
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just discharging his duties as our chief law enforcement officer...what a guy

it's venal and corrupt...but also an incredibly stupid thing to do...and entirely in character

abuse of power...I think so

abuse of office...yes

very sad that he has any defenders, people willing to carry water for him and deflect from his crimes...the damage to our civic fabric and institutions is incalculable
 
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The revelation that Trump pushed Zelensky to pursue the Biden probe, which was first reported by the Wall Street Journal, represents the most detailed account so far of the president’s conduct that prompted a U.S. intelligence official to file a whistleblower action against the president.

The disclosure comes amid new details about the White House’s role in preventing Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire from complying with Congressional demands for the material in the complaint.

White House Counsel Pat Cipollone has been engaged in the matter since shortly after the whistleblower action surfaced, officials said, helping to identify legal obstacles to the sharing of information that could be politically damaging to Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...a39b20-dbdc-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html
 
It's called the rule of law. I'm the President, I am the law, so I rule. Like a king. I'm the greatest hostage negotiator in history, and I'm King of Amerka. Anyone who doesn't like that should go back where their great great great grandparents came from, or they'll meet my nukular weapons. I have big, beautiful nukular weapons. I've just refreshed them. I gave them a drink of water, rebooted Windows, and now we have better nukular weapons than anyone in the world. I'm the second coming of Christ, except I'll do better, more interesting things than turning water into wine. That was pretty lame, pretty boring, really. Don't see what all the fuss was about. Stephen tells me they just added that part a few hundred years ago as Communist propaganda anyway, so I should try to get it banned.
 
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