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57Brave
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The Rude Pundit
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It's really ****ed that we tell athletes to "Shut up and play"
when it comes to politics, but we never tell, say, real estate
moguls or corporate CEOS who think they can be president,
"Shut up and make money."
Don't get me wrong. Everyone should be able to speak.
It's just messed up that we privilege the opinion of
exploitative capitalists.
@rudepundit
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1h
It's really ****ed that we tell athletes to "Shut up and play"
when it comes to politics, but we never tell, say, real estate
moguls or corporate CEOS who think they can be president,
"Shut up and make money."
Don't get me wrong. Everyone should be able to speak.
It's just messed up that we privilege the opinion of
exploitative capitalists.
57Brave
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Trump to reporters on the previously-unknown threat he told Ingraham about:
“a person was on a plane. the entire plane filled up with the looters,
the anarchists, the rioters - people that obviously were looking
for trouble.
And the person felt very uncomfortable on the plane.”
Rand Paul ?
“a person was on a plane. the entire plane filled up with the looters,
the anarchists, the rioters - people that obviously were looking
for trouble.
And the person felt very uncomfortable on the plane.”
Rand Paul ?
57Brave
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BY MARK HOSENBALL, JEFF Mason and Sarah N. Lynch
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said an investigation was under way into alleged "thugs" who boarded a plane seeking to cause damage last week during his Republican Party convention, but U.S. security officials said they could not confirm such an inciden
Officials familiar with law enforcement investigations also expressed puzzlement at assertions by acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf about political movements playing a role. They stressed that law enforcement agencies had not charged any political groups or operatives with fomenting violent protests.
In a Fox News interview late on Monday, Trump made cryptic claims about armed thugs he said had boarded an airplane seeking trouble. Asked for details, Trump said: "I'll tell you sometime, but it's under investigation right now."
On Tuesday, Trump told reporters that it was something told to him by an individual on the flight. Trump would not identify the person.
Asked to comment, White House spokeswoman Sarah Matthews did not address Trump's specific assertions but said he was referring to an investigation into possible financial backers of "organized riots."
The president, seeking re-election on a promise to restore "law and order," told Fox News the plane was "completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that" adding: "Here were like seven people on the plane like this person and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage."
Trump, who trails Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in national opinion polls, first told Fox News the flight involved someone "coming to the Republican National Convention," and later told reporters the plane departed from Washington. The Republicans last week held convention events in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Washington.
The president also did not specify a date for such an incident, detail what gear the individuals were carrying or say whether anyone was arrested or charged.
His assertion was similar to rumors posted on Facebook that NBC reported https://nbcnews.to/2YQUPHN began circulating in June about men dressed in black disembarking on planes in Idaho. Local officials at the time said the rumors were untrue.
Law enforcement, intelligence and Congressional officials familiar with official reporting on weeks of protests and related arrests said on Tuesday they were aware of no incidents or reports that would confirm Trump's anecdote.
In a separate Fox News interview on Monday, Acting Homeland Security chief Wolf said the U.S. Justice Department was investigating individuals who were paying others to travel around the country to take part in protests.
Wolf suggested the probe extended to leaders of Black Lives Matter (BLM) and antifa, a largely unstructured, far-left movement whose followers broadly aim to confront those they view as authoritarian or racist.
"We have seen groups and individuals move from Portland to other parts of the country," Wolf told Fox News on Monday. "The Department of Justice is also targeting and investigating the head of these organizations, the individuals that are paying for these individuals to move across the country," Wolf added.
But the Justice Department did not specifically confirm BLM and antifa leaders were being investigated. Instead, spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said the department was investigating violence, including against law enforcement and government property. She said it was not looking into any First Amendment activity, a reference to free speech guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
Two federal law enforcement officials said the FBI was pursuing numerous criminal investigations related to the protests but not looking at any specific organization’s role in allegedly stoking violence.
(Reporting by Jeff Mason, Mark Hosenball and Sarah Lynch; Additional reporting by Susan Heavey; Editing by Andrea Ricci and Howard Goller)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said an investigation was under way into alleged "thugs" who boarded a plane seeking to cause damage last week during his Republican Party convention, but U.S. security officials said they could not confirm such an inciden
Officials familiar with law enforcement investigations also expressed puzzlement at assertions by acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf about political movements playing a role. They stressed that law enforcement agencies had not charged any political groups or operatives with fomenting violent protests.
In a Fox News interview late on Monday, Trump made cryptic claims about armed thugs he said had boarded an airplane seeking trouble. Asked for details, Trump said: "I'll tell you sometime, but it's under investigation right now."
On Tuesday, Trump told reporters that it was something told to him by an individual on the flight. Trump would not identify the person.
Asked to comment, White House spokeswoman Sarah Matthews did not address Trump's specific assertions but said he was referring to an investigation into possible financial backers of "organized riots."
The president, seeking re-election on a promise to restore "law and order," told Fox News the plane was "completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that" adding: "Here were like seven people on the plane like this person and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage."
Trump, who trails Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in national opinion polls, first told Fox News the flight involved someone "coming to the Republican National Convention," and later told reporters the plane departed from Washington. The Republicans last week held convention events in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Washington.
The president also did not specify a date for such an incident, detail what gear the individuals were carrying or say whether anyone was arrested or charged.
His assertion was similar to rumors posted on Facebook that NBC reported https://nbcnews.to/2YQUPHN began circulating in June about men dressed in black disembarking on planes in Idaho. Local officials at the time said the rumors were untrue.
Law enforcement, intelligence and Congressional officials familiar with official reporting on weeks of protests and related arrests said on Tuesday they were aware of no incidents or reports that would confirm Trump's anecdote.
In a separate Fox News interview on Monday, Acting Homeland Security chief Wolf said the U.S. Justice Department was investigating individuals who were paying others to travel around the country to take part in protests.
Wolf suggested the probe extended to leaders of Black Lives Matter (BLM) and antifa, a largely unstructured, far-left movement whose followers broadly aim to confront those they view as authoritarian or racist.
"We have seen groups and individuals move from Portland to other parts of the country," Wolf told Fox News on Monday. "The Department of Justice is also targeting and investigating the head of these organizations, the individuals that are paying for these individuals to move across the country," Wolf added.
But the Justice Department did not specifically confirm BLM and antifa leaders were being investigated. Instead, spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said the department was investigating violence, including against law enforcement and government property. She said it was not looking into any First Amendment activity, a reference to free speech guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
Two federal law enforcement officials said the FBI was pursuing numerous criminal investigations related to the protests but not looking at any specific organization’s role in allegedly stoking violence.
(Reporting by Jeff Mason, Mark Hosenball and Sarah Lynch; Additional reporting by Susan Heavey; Editing by Andrea Ricci and Howard Goller)
57Brave
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@Acyn
This sounds like a pretty standard account you’d hear
from a PSYCHIATRIC patient suffering from delusions and paranoia.
It’s disturbing that the president of the USA is so
off the charts. Even Laura was sensing the madness!
And she supports him!
@murray_nyc
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@Acyn
This sounds like a pretty standard account you’d hear
from a PSYCHIATRIC patient suffering from delusions and paranoia.
It’s disturbing that the president of the USA is so
off the charts. Even Laura was sensing the madness!
And she supports him!
57Brave
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Runnin
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That's a brilliant sentence, if you're a conman populist. It makes no sense whatsoever and that's its beauty. It contradicts itself. This is one of his halmark techniques - he often says both extremes of any subject, making it impossible to pin him down on anything. It's ALL BS and bluster. Just the perfect candidate for an uneducated, uninformed, anti-political, and conspiracy laden electorate.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
If we had built a wall to keep those Eucalyptus trees out of California, the problem of explosive trees would not exist.
Note that I'm not anti or pro Eucalyptus or anything. Just an observation. I mean they are Australian and should have stayed there.
The picture below is of the Eucalyptus grove on the campus of Cal. I used to take my kids to play there. However, I disown that whole experience now that I have an understanding of their explosive qualities. They should be banned. I mean kept in their own country. There is something weirdly unamerican about them. They don't give off the same smell American trees do. Personally I think Australia bioengineered them as a weapon against our country. But I don't want to get too deep into these conspiracy theories.
Note that I'm not anti or pro Eucalyptus or anything. Just an observation. I mean they are Australian and should have stayed there.
The picture below is of the Eucalyptus grove on the campus of Cal. I used to take my kids to play there. However, I disown that whole experience now that I have an understanding of their explosive qualities. They should be banned. I mean kept in their own country. There is something weirdly unamerican about them. They don't give off the same smell American trees do. Personally I think Australia bioengineered them as a weapon against our country. But I don't want to get too deep into these conspiracy theories.
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The oldest definitive Eucalyptus fossils are surprisingly from South America, where eucalypts are no longer endemic, though have been introduced from Australia. The fossils are from the early Eocene (51.9 Mya), and were found in the Laguna del Hunco deposit in Chubut province in Argentina.
This shows that the genus had a Gondwanan distribution. Fossil leaves also occur in the Miocene of New Zealand, where the genus is not native today, but again have been introduced from Australia.
Despite the prominence of Eucalyptus in modern Australia, estimated to contribute some 75% of the modern vegetation, the fossil record is very scarce throughout much of the Cenozoic, and suggests that this rise to dominance is a geologically more recent phenomenon. The oldest reliably dated macrofossil of Eucalyptus is a 21-million-year-old tree-stump encased in basalt in the upper Lachlan Valley in New South Wales. Other fossils have been found, but many are either unreliably dated or else unreliably identified.
It is useful to consider where Eucalyptus fossils have not been found. Extensive research has gone into the fossil floras of the Paleocene to Oligocene of South-Eastern Australia, and has failed to uncover a single Eucalyptus specimen. Although the evidence is sparse, the best hypothesis is that in the mid-Tertiary, the contintental margins of Australia only supported more mesic noneucalypt vegetation, and that eucalypts probably contributed to the drier vegetation of the arid continental interior. With the progressive drying out of the continent since the Miocene, eucalypts were displaced to the continental margins, and much of the mesic and rainforest vegetation that was once there was eliminated entirely.
The current superdominance of Eucalyptus in Australia may be an artefact of human influence on its ecology. In more recent sediments, numerous findings of a dramatic increase in the abundance of Eucalyptus pollen are associated with increased charcoal levels. Though this occurs at different rates throughout Australia, it is compelling evidence for a relationship between the artificial increase of fire frequency with the arrival of Aboriginals and increased prevalence of this exceptionally fire-tolerant genus.
to me this demonstrates the ones in California have been bioengineered to explode...what do y'all think
This shows that the genus had a Gondwanan distribution. Fossil leaves also occur in the Miocene of New Zealand, where the genus is not native today, but again have been introduced from Australia.
Despite the prominence of Eucalyptus in modern Australia, estimated to contribute some 75% of the modern vegetation, the fossil record is very scarce throughout much of the Cenozoic, and suggests that this rise to dominance is a geologically more recent phenomenon. The oldest reliably dated macrofossil of Eucalyptus is a 21-million-year-old tree-stump encased in basalt in the upper Lachlan Valley in New South Wales. Other fossils have been found, but many are either unreliably dated or else unreliably identified.
It is useful to consider where Eucalyptus fossils have not been found. Extensive research has gone into the fossil floras of the Paleocene to Oligocene of South-Eastern Australia, and has failed to uncover a single Eucalyptus specimen. Although the evidence is sparse, the best hypothesis is that in the mid-Tertiary, the contintental margins of Australia only supported more mesic noneucalypt vegetation, and that eucalypts probably contributed to the drier vegetation of the arid continental interior. With the progressive drying out of the continent since the Miocene, eucalypts were displaced to the continental margins, and much of the mesic and rainforest vegetation that was once there was eliminated entirely.
The current superdominance of Eucalyptus in Australia may be an artefact of human influence on its ecology. In more recent sediments, numerous findings of a dramatic increase in the abundance of Eucalyptus pollen are associated with increased charcoal levels. Though this occurs at different rates throughout Australia, it is compelling evidence for a relationship between the artificial increase of fire frequency with the arrival of Aboriginals and increased prevalence of this exceptionally fire-tolerant genus.
to me this demonstrates the ones in California have been bioengineered to explode...what do y'all think
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Eucalypts originated between 35 and 50 million years ago, not long after Australia-New Guinea separated from Gondwana, their rise coinciding with an increase in fossil charcoal deposits (suggesting that fire was a factor even then), but they remained a minor component of the Tertiary rainforest until about 20 million years ago, when the gradual drying of the continent and depletion of soil nutrients led to the development of a more open forest type, predominantly Casuarina and Acacia species.
The two valuable timber trees, alpine ash E. delegatensis and Australian mountain ash E. regnans, are killed by fire and only regenerate from seed. The same 2003 bushfire that had little impact on forests around Canberra resulted in thousands of hectares of dead ash forests. However, a small amount of ash survived and put out new ash trees as well.
Eucalyptus oil is highly flammable; ignited trees have been known to explode. Bushfires can travel easily through the oil-rich air of the tree crowns. Eucalypts obtain long-term fire survivability from their ability to regenerate from epicormic buds situated deep within their thick bark, or from lignotubers, or by producing serotinous fruits.
In seasonally dry climates oaks are often fire-resistant, particularly in open grasslands, as a grass fire is insufficient to ignite the scattered trees. In contrast, a eucalyptus forest tends to promote fire because of the volatile and highly combustible oils produced by the leaves, as well as the production of large amounts of litter high in phenolics, preventing its breakdown by fungi and thus accumulating as large amounts of dry, combustible fuel. Consequently, dense eucalypt plantings may be subject to catastrophic firestorms. In fact, almost thirty years before the Oakland firestorm of 1991, a study of eucalyptus in the area warned that the litter beneath the trees builds up very rapidly and should be regularly monitored and removed. It has been estimated that 70% of the energy released through the combustion of vegetation in the Oakland fire was due to eucalyptus. In a National Park Service study, it was found that the fuel load (in tons per acre) of non-native eucalyptus woods is almost three times as great as native oak woodland.
seems to me very poorly chosen one might be right about this one...well it is hard to figure out who is the they when he says "they have more explosive trees"...is "they" california or other countries...california has a lot of eucalyptus
The two valuable timber trees, alpine ash E. delegatensis and Australian mountain ash E. regnans, are killed by fire and only regenerate from seed. The same 2003 bushfire that had little impact on forests around Canberra resulted in thousands of hectares of dead ash forests. However, a small amount of ash survived and put out new ash trees as well.
Eucalyptus oil is highly flammable; ignited trees have been known to explode. Bushfires can travel easily through the oil-rich air of the tree crowns. Eucalypts obtain long-term fire survivability from their ability to regenerate from epicormic buds situated deep within their thick bark, or from lignotubers, or by producing serotinous fruits.
In seasonally dry climates oaks are often fire-resistant, particularly in open grasslands, as a grass fire is insufficient to ignite the scattered trees. In contrast, a eucalyptus forest tends to promote fire because of the volatile and highly combustible oils produced by the leaves, as well as the production of large amounts of litter high in phenolics, preventing its breakdown by fungi and thus accumulating as large amounts of dry, combustible fuel. Consequently, dense eucalypt plantings may be subject to catastrophic firestorms. In fact, almost thirty years before the Oakland firestorm of 1991, a study of eucalyptus in the area warned that the litter beneath the trees builds up very rapidly and should be regularly monitored and removed. It has been estimated that 70% of the energy released through the combustion of vegetation in the Oakland fire was due to eucalyptus. In a National Park Service study, it was found that the fuel load (in tons per acre) of non-native eucalyptus woods is almost three times as great as native oak woodland.
seems to me very poorly chosen one might be right about this one...well it is hard to figure out who is the they when he says "they have more explosive trees"...is "they" california or other countries...california has a lot of eucalyptus
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Runnin
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“They said, ‘They may not like the way you talk,’ but I’m about law and order. I’m about having you safe. I’m about having your suburban communities. I don’t want to build low-income housing next to your house.”
“Suburban women, they should like me more than anybody here tonight because I ended the regulation that destroyed your neighborhood. I ended the regulation that brought crime to the suburbs, and you’re going to live the American dream,” POTUS added. “So can I ask you to do me a favor? Suburban women, will you please like me? I saved your damn neighborhood, OK?”
******
A few more bad polls and he's gonna tell everyone to go frck themselves.
“Suburban women, they should like me more than anybody here tonight because I ended the regulation that destroyed your neighborhood. I ended the regulation that brought crime to the suburbs, and you’re going to live the American dream,” POTUS added. “So can I ask you to do me a favor? Suburban women, will you please like me? I saved your damn neighborhood, OK?”
******
A few more bad polls and he's gonna tell everyone to go frck themselves.