thread on actual for real governmental attacks on constitutional liberties

[mqt]

“I want to do this because I’m tired of the normalization of anti-American philosophy, for example, in New York ... it’s amazing you can have the Hezbollah flag being marched within shouting distance of where the towers fell,” he said, referencing the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

“We have somebody running for mayor ... that applauds the very same philosophy and people that did that,” Chesnoff continued. “We need to send a bigger message to the American public of the danger that poses.”

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That comment appeared to catch Noem’s attention. Noem, whose department oversees the increasingly militarized deportation raids frequently led by masked people who hide their names and badges, said she’s looking for creative ways to expand her power.

“The Department of Homeland Security has authorities that have never been utilized before ... and I’m going to need some good minds on how to use those authorities,” she said.

This is one of those sentences you probably don’t want to ever hear.

Trump’s Homeland Security Council Sets Its Sights on Zohran Mamdani

“The Department of Homeland Security has authorities that have never been utilized before,” Kristi Noem told the group after a discussion of the New York City mayoral candidate.

t.co

 

[nsacpi]

Abusing the powers of government to target people for their viewpoints. A daily occurrence. Actual for real tyranny.

And our friends respond that McCarthy did not go far enough.

 

[nsacpi]

McCarthy didn't go far enough

bump for shits and giggles

 

[sturg33]

Abusing the powers of government to target people for their viewpoints. A daily occurrence. Actual for real tyranny.

And our friends respond that McCarthy did not go far enough.

I'm reminded that the Biden administration put 1,000 protesters in prison for walking around the capitol but didn't bother when when a group quite literally conquered 6 blocks of a major city and declared it independent of the united states

As always, nobody cares anymore dude. This is our system until imploded. When people like me say we should elect someone like Ron paul, you laugh us out of the building. So enjoy the tyranny you vote for each time. Just stop bitching about it

 

[sturg33]

bump for shits and giggles

Guilty. Wish he worked harder to remove the most murderous ideology in world history from our country after we conquered it abroad

Instead, kids actually go in debt to "learn" from you

 

[nsacpi]

well to ask a question that one of the libertarian bros asked earlier, whose intuition gets to determine what is a murderous ideology that must be removed (i assume he would ask this question and i'm just a little quicker to ask it)

 

[mqt]

I'm reminded that the Biden administration put 1,000 protesters in prison for walking around the capitol but didn't bother when when a group quite literally conquered 6 blocks of a major city and declared it independent of the United States

As always, nobody cares anymore dude. This is our system until imploded. When people like me say we should elect someone like Ron paul, you laugh us out of the building. So enjoy the tyranny you vote for each time. Just stop bitching about it

To be completely fucking fair here, the Biden Administration had no fucking business in the prosecution of these very clearly state crimes. They did, however, have reasonable jurisdiction in the prosecution of crimes committed at the United States Capitol involving violence toward federal agents and lawmakers. This is just federalism my dude.

 

[sturg33]

well to ask a question that one of the libertarian bros asked earlier, whose intuition gets to determine what is a murderous ideology that must be removed (i assume he would ask this question and i'm just a little quicker to ask it)

Oh yeah, good question!

It depends on the society's institutions. Could be a council of elders. Elected representatives. The people themselves. That's the mechanism for taking action

But in a different sense it is for each of us to decide and discuss. There will be varying degrees of consensus. As we have seen. Some countries were much more cohesive in their response to covid. For others it was much more contentious.

In the instance of the red scare... the country decided communism represented a national emergency. Much like Covid. And as you have expressed with regard to covid, I wish the government did more to remove the evil from our country. We are paying the consequences today

If memory serves, you were pretty clear in your support for totalitarian measures against people who didn't think like you. You supported the snitch hotlines. The closing of schools and events. You wanted to remove the unvaccinated from your classroom, the military, and most public spaces in general.

It was a very eye opening moment for me. It's when I realized my preferred ideology (leave people alone) will never work as long as there are people like you (submit to my will).

 

[sturg33]

To be completely fucking fair here, the Biden Administration had no fucking business in the prosecution of these very clearly state crimes. They did, however, have reasonable jurisdiction in the prosecution of crimes committed at the United States Capitol involving violence toward federal agents and lawmakers. This is just federalism my dude.

But they took over federal buildings within the 6 blocks. They also declared their succession from the union.

 

[mqt]

But they took over federal buildings within the 6 blocks. They also declared their succession from the union.

All I’m saying is why would the answer not be to simply not over-prosecute J6ers, but also not waste taxpayer dollars taking a bunch of hippies seriously when they have an extended tantrum? If your point is that the federal government is hypocritical and overly partisan, I’m not sure who you think hasn’t caught on to that. But if you’re going to have any principles to stand on, you should oppose both.

 

[nsacpi]

Oh yeah, good question!

It depends on the society's institutions. Could be a council of elders. Elected representatives. The people themselves. That's the mechanism for taking action

But in a different sense it is for each of us to decide and discuss. There will be varying degrees of consensus. As we have seen. Some countries were much more cohesive in their response to covid. For others it was much more contentious.

In the instance of the red scare... the country decided communism represented a national emergency. Much like Covid. And as you have expressed with regard to covid, I wish the government did more to remove the evil from our country. We are paying the consequences today

If memory serves, you were pretty clear in your support for totalitarian measures against people who didn't think like you. You supported the snitch hotlines. The closing of schools and events. You wanted to remove the unvaccinated from your classroom, the military, and most public spaces in general.

It was a very eye opening moment for me. It's when I realized my preferred ideology (leave people alone) will never work as long as there are people like you (submit to my will).

Good answer. Wrong question.

Sadly that gets you an F.

Plus plagiarism.

 

[sturg33]

All I’m saying is why would the answer not be to simply not over-prosecute J6ers, but also not waste taxpayer dollars taking a bunch of hippies seriously when they have an extended tantrum? If your point is that the federal government is hypocritical and overly partisan, I’m not sure who you think hasn’t caught on to that. But if you’re going to have any principles to stand on, you should oppose both.

I obviously opposed the J6 treatment as I posted on here daily about it for a year. But a reminder nobody was killed that day. Nobody was raped. Well, except a protester at the hands of the state.

Meanwhile, the Seattle project was left to its own volition for months. Multiple people were murdered and raped. Property destroyed. And social life completely ended. Biden had federal authority to take back control over federal property that murderous (college educated) thugs just claimed ownership of.

But my larger point here is nsacpis whining about hypocrisy is so tiresome when he has spent years cheering all this on. And your daily reminded that he is educating young people

 

[sturg33]

Good answer. Wrong question.

Sadly that gets you an F.

Plus plagiarism.

deflection is the right move.

go back to your signature move of re-bumping my awesome posts

 

[nsacpi]

your nostalgia for McCarthyism is notable, entirely in character and not at all surprising....fweedom for me but not for thee

 

[sturg33]

your nostalgia for McCarthyism is notable, entirely in character and not at all surprising....fweedom for me but not for thee

you kick the kids without masks out of society, ill kick the communists out of society. we can debate on whose authoritarianism is more virtuous