thread on actual for real governmental attacks on constitutional liberties

chop2chip said:
ah I see a new Software update was deployed

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015438849816907901
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What's insane was even if he didn't have his permit and id on him, there never was a point that ICE asked for that and even then, it's a misdemeanor.

The narrative went from he tried to kill the officers to his papers weren't in order is the most insane shift I've ever seen in my life.
 
thethe said:
To remove the invading army I understand it won’t be pretty. There is no way this would be clean.
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Won’t be pretty in this case meaning infringing on the right to bear arms. We can do gun control for deportations but not for school shootings or 40,000+ annual firearm-related deaths? I’m not an anti-2A guy to begin with, but I don’t know how I can square this logic.
 
mqt said:
Won’t be pretty in this case meaning infringing on the right to bear arms. We can do gun control for deportations but not for school shootings or 40,000+ annual firearm-related deaths? I’m not an anti-2A guy to begin with, but I don’t know how I can square this logic.
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Yes - it won’t be pretty.

I believe we are the righteous side and will peacefully maintain society after the task is done
 
@thethe If we decided to peacefully maintain society by forcibly removing all Muslims from the country, would you object. How about trans people or gay people? Or socialists?
 
mqt said:
She happens to be right, but I’m also having a hard time accepting some of the rather adamantly anti-gun left wade into the 2A argument instead of just focusing on use of lethal force. If you think we need tight gun control, it seems incongruent to defend him bringing a gun to a protest.
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It's also incongruent to all the people who defended Kyle Rittenhouse to be condemning this Veteran who was carrying a sidearm.
 
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