Trade 'em or keep 'em

NYCBrave said:
Not sure if you follow the minor leagues or not, but the numbers Profar was putting up for his age at the SS/2B position were ridiculous. His ceiling is infinite and because he's at a premium position, that's why he was rated so highly. It's not really fair to compare those two side by side, especially because of positional scarcity and the fact that Myers has over 3 years on Profar.
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Ok and the guys played almost 100 games in the majors and has a career BA of .230 and OPS of 6.35...ill keep Craig..
 
BlackwaterPark said:
Ok and the guys played almost 100 games in the majors and has a career BA of .230 and OPS of 6.35...ill keep Craig..
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That's just a ridiculous statement. The guy has 300 career at bats, over sporadic playing time in the majors (the way he's been jerked around is criminal) in his age 19 and 20 seasons! Do you know where most players are during their age 19 and 20 seasons? Wil Myers was in short season ball followed by low A ball when he was that age. I'm not advocating trading for Profar, but you can't just look at the stats in a vacuum.
 
Dalyn said:
CJ - Keep him.

BJ - Keep him.

Justin - Keep him.

McCann - Let him go.

Huddy - Offer him around six million with an eight to ten million dollar team option.

Medlen - Keep him.

Uggla - Trade or make him earn the starting job.

Venters - Bring back.

Carpenter - Keep him.

Schafer - Bring back.

EJ - Bring back.

Reed - Pick up option.
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Just curious is bringing EOF back a possibility?
 
BravesfanMike said:
What should we do with some of our players this off season?

C Johnson - trade him. His value will never be higher

BJ - stuck with him

JUp - trade him

McCann - Let him go

Huddy - Let him go

Medlen - Keep him

Uggla - trade him PUHLEEZE !

Venters - resign

Carpenter - keep him

any others ?
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Let me guess - you have a fantasy league team? You don't make personnel decisions strictly on "selling high," while operating a real major baseball team. Most importantly is if the player makes the team better and helps them win.

Chris Johnson was the only serious contact hitter in the lineup, and definitely just showed no signs of fatigue from the season. Maybe you'd trade if something better was coming along. Dude almost won the batting title. What more did he need to do?
 
PawPawMaxwell said:
Read the title of this thread. AFWIW, with the money available coming up in 2014 and the pitching staff that has been seasoned and what is available pitching wise in the minors, Wren can reallistically do what he wants with virtually every position player currently on the team and build any way he wants.
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So in other words, Wren can use the money to sign or extend the equivalent of Uggla, Upton the Elder, Derek Lowe, or Kawakami? Wren and money scare me. Maybe he should just burn it in a barrel down on skid row. At least the homeless would get a night's worth of warmth out of the conflagration.
 
Call me crazy but I'd consider trading kimbrel now where the return will be the best and have either walden or wood close I think wood as a closer would be intriguing
 
Knucksie said:
Chris Johnson was the only serious contact hitter in the lineup, and definitely just showed no signs of fatigue from the season. Maybe you'd trade if something better was coming along. Dude almost won the batting title. What more did he need to do?
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The Chris Johnson is a contact hitter is one of those odd things that never dies.

Of the 10 players with 200+ PA on the team, Johnson is 6th in contact%, and 8th in SwStr. Simmons is a contact hitter, he rarely Ks and makes contact with almost all of his swings. Johnson doesn't. Johnson is a linedrive hitter, that's why he has a high average. Johnson struck out as much (and has lower contact numbers) as Evan Gattis, I don't think a soul out there would consider Gattis a contact hitter. Mac, Heyward, and Freddie are all more contact hitters than Johnson.

Now if you said Johnson is a high average hitter and we don't have many of them, that's a fair point.
 
zitothebrave said:
The Chris Johnson is a contact hitter is one of those odd things that never dies.

Of the 10 players with 200+ PA on the team, Johnson is 6th in contact%, and 8th in SwStr. Simmons is a contact hitter, he rarely Ks and makes contact with almost all of his swings. Johnson doesn't. Johnson is a linedrive hitter, that's why he has a high average. Johnson struck out as much (and has lower contact numbers) as Evan Gattis, I don't think a soul out there would consider Gattis a contact hitter. Mac, Heyward, and Freddie are all more contact hitters than Johnson.

Now if you said Johnson is a high average hitter and we don't have many of them, that's a fair point.
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The cold light of day reality is this: NONE of these guys made a big enough difference for the Braves to advance in the post season. Overly pragmatic? Of course, but it does open an uncluttered viewing window as to how this reality can be remedied for 2014. No one is indispensable and if there's a package or a player or two or three or MORE than can make this team better, it should be considered.
 
The idea of trading Johnson now with his value so high makes sense, except for the fact that the Braves have no viable in-house alternative at 3B. The FA market has a few veterans that might work out (Chavez, Youkilis, Michael Young, JUAN URIBE!!), so there are some options. Maybe a package of Medlen/Johnson to a team like Cleveland/LAA would fetch a nice return
 
Bj1133 said:
The idea of trading Johnson now with his value so high makes sense, except for the fact that the Braves have no viable in-house alternative at 3B. The FA market has a few veterans that might work out (Chavez, Youkilis, Michael Young, JUAN URIBE!!), so there are some options. Maybe a package of Medlen/Johnson to a team like Cleveland/LAA would fetch a nice return
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You could always see if Detroit wants a closer and trade Kimbrel for Castellanos and another prospect.
 
thethe said:
You could always see if Detroit wants a closer and trade Kimbrel for Castellanos and another prospect.
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Is there a better trade piece in baseball than Kimbrel? Heck, the Braves may have 2 of the top 5 most valuable assets in he and Simmons.
 
Since the idea of trading Chris Johnson being traded is so popular around here, somebody ought to explain that would actually improve the team. Y'know help to prevent another first round loss in the playoffs. With him out of the lineup, that leaves only Freeman to hit for average, while the rest either swing for the fences or swing at air. While you're pondering that mystery, go back and check on your fantasy league team stats.
 
Bj1133 said:
Is there a better trade piece in baseball than Kimbrel? Heck, the Braves may have 2 of the top 5 most valuable assets in he and Simmons.
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Depending on what Wrens evaulation of the team is I could see him making no moves or a few moves. Something that might be interesting is the following:

Kimbrel for Castellanos/Benoit or Alburquerque/prospect
Justin UPton for Profar / starting pitching prospect

You could play Profar at second and Castellanos in LF and get a replacement bullpen arm and hope that a closer emerges for us next year. Obviously the closer won't touch what Kimbrel is but it would be a more cost controlled basis while capitalizing on his value.
 
What could we realistically expect in return if we traded Kimbrel? ( not advocating this ) Some have mentioned Castellanos (sp) but we can do much better than that for the most dominating closer in baseball
 
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