Trading Justin Upton AND Jason Heyward?

I'd need to know the actual budget, whether these guys are open to an extension at a price we could pay, and what the return would be. I wouldn't rule out trading both of them, and I'd say we should probably trade one of them. That is unless someone wants to take BJ off of our hands and help our budget.
 
Good thread. Mainly I was glad to see a few mention that the obvious choice is to "rebuild" by trading Kimbrel. We can't afford to pay that much for a closer and we have in house options to somewhat replace Kimbrel. And funny enough with all this talk about getting back to the "Braves Way", that for sure was the Braves way, do not put too much of your budget into your closer.

This offseason, I'd "make" Justin take an undervalue contract to make up for what we overpaid his brother. Then I'd see if Heyward would sign something similar. Dump CJ ASAP. Then see what I could get for Kimbrel.
 
Eyeman said:
Good thread. Mainly I was glad to see a few mention that the obvious choice is to "rebuild" by trading Kimbrel. We can't afford to pay that much for a closer and we have in house options to somewhat replace Kimbrel. And funny enough with all this talk about getting back to the "Braves Way", that for sure was the Braves way, do not put too much of your budget into your closer.

This offseason, I'd "make" Justin take an undervalue contract to make up for what we overpaid his brother. Then I'd see if Heyward would sign something similar. Dump CJ ASAP. Then see what I could get for Kimbrel.
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lol wut
 
Maybe it's just me, but I don't know why so many are wanting to trade Kimbrel. The Braves have the best closer in the business. Ask the Detroit Tigers how valuable having a strong back of the bullpen is.
 
Figure out what contract we can afford. Offer it to both of them and the first one to accept then u trade the other one.
 
emk418 said:
Yea can't say I understand that
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You'll both understand how important he truly is to this team when he's not running around the bases or making incredible plays for our pitchers. But of course if you live in a world where baseball is only about hitting(which Heyward is also above average at) then you probably can't understand why he's so important to any team he's on.
 
This is certainly a tough dilemma. Keeping both, going for it in 2015, and then taking the draft picks seems really risky, since it's a good chance those won't pan out. Then again, we know we can't keep both, or potentially even one if they want to get paid.
 
Well we probably wont win the WS or maybe even make the playoffs next year so depending on the return it makes sense.

To trade one, re-sign the other.

Better than watching both walk for some useless draft picks that will probably bust.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Draft picks.
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So keep both, dont win the WS, and get two late round 1st picks for them?

I love both but if we cant extend either, they have to trade one of them depending on what comes back in return.
 
NYCBrave said:
This is certainly a tough dilemma. Keeping both, going for it in 2015, and then taking the draft picks seems really risky, since it's a good chance those won't pan out. Then again, we know we can't keep both, or potentially even one if they want to get paid.
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WE can definately keep one, takes two to tango, money is there, will either accept an extension is another story.
 
emk418 said:
We 100% cannot let either Heyward or Justin walk away after 2015 for just a draft pick. That will kill us. Nobody wants to trade either but the team needs to be realistic. We MUST cash in on one of them this offseason and pick up multiple pieces. I'm sure everyone here would love nothing more then to lock both up but we can't go into the year with both. I'm going to be very disappointed if we don't trade one.
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NYCBrave said:
This same flawed team won the division and made the playoffs in 2013. What's so different since then?
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Do you not watch this team play this season?

Baseball has a law of averages.

We arent this bad, we're an 86-90 win team at best.

Maybe they got hot if they got in the playoffs but the baseball gods hate us.

Some scrub from the Cards or Giants would have a huge series probably.
 
One thing to consider is the Nats have a ton of talent hitting free agency in the next 2 years. The Phillies are in denial and I give it one more year before reality sets in and they start rebuilding. The Marlins only have Stanton for 2 more years, really 1 because there is no way they let him walk for an draft pick. Jose Fernandez has Satan for an agent so there is no chance he takes a team friendly deal. The Mets are on an upward path and will be contenders soon.

It seems like the smart play to look to the new stadium opening in 2017 as the goal to be real contenders again. We are handicapped by bad contracts and always picking in the late first round. Only 2 picks we ever had job the top 15 we turned into Heywood and Minor. A few years of high picks and letting some bad contracts run out could get us back to world series contenders instead of never being able to get out of the first round even when we are good.
 
Heyward said:
Team's way too flawed, we'd lose in the WC game at best.

If miss the playoffs again.
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The worst part about you as a poster is you say everything as a matter of fact. It makes you look really dumb when what you're saying is extremely flawed.
 
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