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thethe said:
Late teens and early 20's men should not be thinking about finding a long term woman.

All about adventure and building your professional career/business. When you're late 20's early 30's then you go find your mate.

I got 'wifed up' at 19 with a girl I met in college. She left when I was 25 after a year or marriage. Changed careers and got my shit settled. At 36 I met an angel 28 year old and we are going for a our second child now.

But late teens early 20 year old women should absolutely be looking for a mate.
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I don’t agree with this world view regardless, but how do you pair this with a simultaneous push for the nuclear family and less female promiscuity and not understand you’re dooming young men to loneliness? Under this view, women would have to marry older men and young men would be left in the dust, no?
 
mqt said:
I don’t agree with this world view regardless, but how do you pair this with a simultaneous push for the nuclear family and less female promiscuity and not understand you’re dooming young men to loneliness? Under this view, women would have to marry older men and young men would be left in the dust, no?
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I don't think young men are doomed for loneliness - Lots of women out there that choose to not wife up early to not be lonely with for nights at a time.

Even in older times there were plenty of single women to guide younger men into manhood.

Large age gaps were always the norm historically and I think that is a winning formula (personal bias applies here of course).
 
thethe said:
Go on....
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No further points needed. I'ts fucking retarded.

Gen Z incels being undateable isn't anything to do with men not needing to find committed relationships at a young age. I know plenty of non-incel gen z who have had great relationships including some who are married.
 
thethe said:
I don't think young men are doomed for loneliness - Lots of women out there that choose to not wife up early to not be lonely with for nights at a time.

Even in older times there were plenty of single women to guide younger men into manhood.

Large age gaps were always the norm historically and I think that is a winning formula (personal bias applies here of course).
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You’re missing the variable where these young men are increasingly becoming embittered by their loneliness and turning to the very influencers and behaviors that reinforce to them that women are to blame for their loneliness and subsequently making themselves more likely to be lonely.

Whether you agree with the women of today politically or not, they’re still the women of today. Young men might need to reconsider their communication with these women if they are upset that women don’t want to date them.
 
mqt said:
You’re missing the variable where these young men are increasingly becoming embittered by their loneliness and turning to the very influencers and behaviors that reinforce to them that women are to blame for their loneliness and subsequently making themselves more likely to be lonely.

Whether you agree with the women of today politically or not, they’re still the women of today. Young men might need to reconsider their communication with these women if they are upset that women don’t want to date them.
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I mostly have no issues with 'women of today'. There is a subset that to me is undateable but I've always been of the belief that women are maleable in their ideology and just want a strong man to guide/center them.

I just don't think men are meant to settle at 19/20/21/etc.... That doesn't mean all but I think most need to find themselves and establish their own career.

The 'alpha male' ideology has existed forever and men have been 'dogs' for a long time. Tate is just capitalizing on that segment of the population. He isn't for me but I understand why some men gravitate to him.
 
zitothebrave said:
No further points needed. I'ts fucking retarded.

Gen Z incels being undateable isn't anything to do with men not needing to find committed relationships at a young age. I know plenty of non-incel gen z who have had great relationships including some who are married.
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This is where you cite some personal experiences and think it means everyone or think what I said apply to everyone.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1913641721646195129

To paraphrase a line from thethe, I beg them to keep focusing on the fact that protests are indeed organized and ignore the crowds willing to go to them. It’s a good way to shield yourself from any reflection on if your policies are popular but not a time-proven electoral strategy to bury your head in the sand.
 
Our intricate system on check-and-balances breaks down without a degree of self-restraint from the parties involved.
 
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