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[cajunrevenge]

Glad to see Darryl take a break from apologizing for Hitler to comment on Epstein

I looked up this guy and from what I have seen his views are within acceptable boundaries. Thats not to say he was right. History needs a wide range of views and people to challenge commonly held beliefs. Lots of historians takes are controversial before they ended up being right. When we disallow views simply because we dont like them its not history its propoganda.

 

[acesfull86]

Who’s disallowing his views? The lol at calling him “America’s most honest historian” starts with the fact that he’s, well, not a historian, for one. Which he admits, while using as a shield to not have to defend his stances against people who actually are scholars.

He’s America’s most honest historian the same way a dude on the Savannah Bananas is America’s best baseball player.

But it shouldn’t surprise me that Tucker Carlson would be wow’ed by this guy after he was similarly impressed by Russian supermarkets. Americas most beclowned podcaster?

 

[cajunrevenge]

Are you telling me there arent people trying to censor him? Calling him Americas most honest historian was retarded before I even looked him up. Though being honest about American history is a good way to get blacklisted. I struggle to find many points in Americas history where the government wasnt the bad guys. Theres several points where they were the lesser of two evils but give me a year starting from 1800-now and theres been atrocities committed by the US government.

 

[acesfull86]

Are you telling me there arent people trying to censor him?

IDK, you tell me if you found any...two days ago you said you didn't know who he was. I'm sure there are online nobodies who'd love to see him censored, but anyone/anyplace who actually matters and has power? He's never been "de-platformed" anywhere.

If anything, it's probably the opposite. He's been offered a larger platform by folks inviting him to defend his views against actual scholars, and he's declined, self-identifying himself as a hobbyist, not a real historian.

 

[chop2chip]

I looked up this guy and from what I have seen his views are within acceptable boundaries. Thats not to say he was right. History needs a wide range of views and people to challenge commonly held beliefs. Lots of historians takes are controversial before they ended up being right. When we disallow views simply because we dont like them it’s not history it’s propoganda.

He called Winston Churchill the villain of World War II (including on Tucker’s podcast) who provoked Germany into war with rest of Europe after the Poland invasion for personal ambition. His evidence is that Hitler dropped pamphlets all over Britain as a last step effort to stop the war as Britain bombed German citizens (and blamed Churchill from suppressing because he ordered the pamphlets to be collected and destroyed) which (1) ignores Germany had already conquered Western Europe and (2) not even chronologically accurate as Germany had been conducting bombing raids for months prior.

His explanation for death camps was because Germany was “unprepared” to deal with so many prisoners making the Holocaust more of a logistics snafu rather than genocide based on ideology (he has stated several times he doesn’t think the Holocaust was ideologically driven.)

 

[chop2chip]

IDK, you tell me if you found any...two days ago you said you didn't know who he was. I'm sure there are online nobodies who'd love to see him censored, but anyone/anyplace who actually matters and has power? He's never been "de-platformed" anywhere.

If anything, it's probably the opposite. He's been offered a larger platform by folks inviting him to defend his views against actual scholars, and he's declined, self-identifying himself as a hobbyist, not a real historian.

Boxing jelly

 

[cajunrevenge]

He called Winston Churchill the villain of World War II (including on Tucker’s podcast) who provoked Germany into war with rest of Europe after the Poland invasion for personal ambition. His evidence is that Hitler dropped pamphlets all over Britain as a last step effort to stop the war as Britain bombed German citizens (and blamed Churchill from suppressing because he ordered the pamphlets to be collected and destroyed) which (1) ignores Germany had already conquered Western Europe and (2) not even chronologically accurate as Germany had been conducting bombing raids for months prior.

His explanation for death camps was because Germany was “unprepared” to deal with so many prisoners making the Holocaust more of a logistics snafu rather than genocide based on ideology (he has stated several times he doesn’t think the Holocaust was ideologically driven.)

Yeah those are retarded views. I still dont think he should be censored. I believe in the right to be wrong as long as there is no malicious intent. And maybe he does but this isnt like lying about election fraud that had the intent of muddying the waters enough for a coup to take place. And I dont care if his views hurt anyones feelings.

 

[chop2chip]

Yeah those are retarded views. I still dont think he should be censored. I believe in the right to be wrong as long as there is no malicious intent. And maybe he does but this isnt like lying about election fraud that had the intent of muddying the waters enough for a coup to take place. And I dont care if his views hurt anyones feelings.

No one wants him censored. Just calling a spade a spade.