True Detective: Season 2 stars named

Something from a Past Episode that many have missed... Look at your own peril:

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Also, something from the "Making of True Detective" Featurette that is on HBO On Demand:

About 4 Minutes in during the Segment when they are talking about the Characters of Cohle and Hart, there is a 3-4 Second Shot of the Present Day(2012) Russ & Marty in a dark make shift evidence room with a evidence board, both of them drinking beers together... So, either they have been working together all along, or they definitely get back together to work the case.

Also, a slightly more up for interpretation tidbit, but when Michelle Monohan(plays Marty's Wife) is talking about the characters of Cohle & hart, she says "I think that's why they've stayed together for 17 years", which would seem to indicate that the whole 2002 Blowup between them and they haven't spoke for 10 years may have been fake and they have been working together in secret all this time... OR, maybe she just misspoke.
 
KeithLockhart said:
Pozzollato expounded on the two present day detectives and their "interview" with Rust.

Remember when Hart says "you thought you were getting a read on Cohle, when actually he was getting a read on you".

Pozzollato says that the genius of that scene is that Rust Cohle asked the detectives for the beer, and by drinking beer, anything he said after drinking would be inadmissible. He played them all along.

Looking more and more like Russ is indeed undercover still for the past 10 years, and Hart knows and is going on with it to.

Perhaps the title "True Detective" is a metaphor for Rust's commitment to solving this case that he went MIA for 10 years.
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Interesting....I like this.
 
KeithLockhart said:
I still want to know the backstory of Audrey (Hart's daughter). Was she molested? She seemed to know a lot about sex very young and she was promiscuous as a teenager. I want to know where her storyline fits in with this.
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I bet you do... Filthy animal.
 
Marathon-watched the first four on Sunday.

Just watched the fifth episode, and had been avoiding this thread until I finished it.

Surprisingly great show. I thought Harrelson was the standout in the first couple episodes, as playing the straight-man can often be more challenging than the crazed partner; but McConaughey's character has gained so much depth it's impossible to dispute the superlative nature of his performance.

I refuse to speculate on where this is going, beyond believing that the interviewing duo—whose relationship and agenda we seem to finally see fully-exposed in this fifth episode—are woefully under-informed.
 
I have this absurd theory... perhaps the Yellow King is the preacher from the tent? My brother and I have been watching this to find clues.

On the tent there was a huge cross outside o the front that looked white, but inside it was yellow. May not look yellow here, but on my TV in full LED HD it is yellow. Wasn't Dora Lang a visitor of this congregation?

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In chess, the sign of the cross is dedicated to the "King" piece.

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Perhaps the preacher, is the Yellow King like on a chess set. The followers in the tent are his pawns, who distract the heavy pieces. The knights and rooks were his minions such as Ledoux and Ledoux's partner? The king controls all the pieces and tells everyone where to go, just like the preacher. Also, Ledoux giving a bunch of existential blubber to Cohle could be similar to the religious blabber the preacher gives.

Chess is a game of patience and knowing when to make your move. McConaughey went undercover for 10 years to try and help solve the mystery case.
 
KeithLockhart said:
I have this absurd theory... perhaps the Yellow King is the preacher from the tent? My brother and I have been watching this to find clues.

On the tent there was a huge cross outside o the front that looked white, but inside it was yellow. May not look yellow here, but on my TV in full LED HD it is yellow. Wasn't Dora Lang a visitor of this congregation?

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In chess, the sign of the cross is dedicated to the "King" piece.

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Perhaps the preacher, is the Yellow King like on a chess set. The followers in the tent are his pawns, who distract the heavy pieces. The knights and rooks were his minions such as Ledoux and Ledoux's partner? The king controls all the pieces and tells everyone where to go, just like the preacher. Also, Ledoux giving a bunch of existential blubber to Cohle could be similar to the religious blabber the preacher gives.

Chess is a game of patience and knowing when to make your move. McConaughey went undercover for 10 years to try and help solve the mystery case.
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He definitely plays a part. It is why I linked that video of him preaching.
 
Dalyn said:
He definitely plays a part. It is why I linked that video of him preaching.
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Damnit. All my hard work and this is the response I get.

Now that Ledoux and Partner is dead, it has to be him or his brother the governor. Or maybe they're in cahoots and it is a cult like many have speculated with the "task force" also in on it.
 
Just read another theory...

http://www.vulture.com/2014/02/true-detective-who-is-the-yellow-king.html
Tow-headed (the blonde/yellow king), alcoholic, and with a daughter who shows signs (see: drawings, dolls) of being introduced to sexual content at an early age, Hart blows Reggie Ledoux away rather than run the risk of his true identity becoming known. His mention in episode five of having gone hunting once is interesting specifically for his mention of having bagged a ten-point buck, the same number of points that matches Dora Lange's crown. (And, as mentioned above, he drew Cohle away from the Tuttle school that first time.)
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http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/comments/1y6m9y/spoiler_have_you_seen_stacy_gerhart/
Something that caught my eye was that "Have you seen Stacy Gerhart?" sign we kept seeing. We've seen Rust staring at it a few times now and it made me think that maybe Rust was looking for her missing persons report on that PC, and found all those other reports that came up with "Made in Error". Is someone on the inside covering up for this Cult?
I think Rust is the "True Detective" and is still investigating the cult in the present day, collecting evidence and gathering it in his storage container. Maybe he believes there is someone on the inside covering up too, so he's working on his own.
Hart on the other hand, is one suspicious MF. All the **** with his daughter, the drawings and the dolls etc. Remember when Rust went to that school before, he knew something was up and who stopped him from going in? It was Hart, urgently honking his horn to call him back and drag him away. He also killed Reggie before they could take him in. Reggie never actually even saw his face, maybe he killed Reggie so he couldn't talk rather then through outrage/vengance. Maybe it was Hart who forced the guy in prison to kill himself too, after all it was he who didn't want prints to be taken from that payphone. Could he be involved in some way? Maybe that's what led to his falling out with Rust, Rust probably wanted to reopen the case and Marty refused him as he was the guy in charge of it. Tuttle must be involved in someway too, I remember him being linked to that school.
First post here, all just speculation but I'd like to hear your opinions.
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KeithLockhart said:
Damnit. All my hard work and this is the response I get.

Now that Ledoux and Partner is dead, it has to be him or his brother the governor. Or maybe they're in cahoots and it is a cult like many have speculated with the "task force" also in on it.
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Sorry. Only half here. I will respond more later. :Alone:
 
Dalyn said:
I think Rust made it clear he thinks there are people on the inside covering up. Remember what he says to the older detective interviewing him? I think it is one of the reasons he is there. Trying to ruffle the right feathers to lure out the people involved.
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Yeah the consensus online seems to be like Hart said "You were trying to get a read on Russ? He was getting a read on you." He was feeling out the detectives to see if they were involved. But ultimately I think they aren't, and just naive and trying to investigate how they normally would. Governor and Preacher are related, and when Cohle said "Big People", he was definitely referring to higher ups and rich men. Then Charlie who was in prison kept talking about "a place where rich men would go to worship the devil". Also, Cohle's big dramatic exit on the detectives was him seeing how they'd react. Since they felt they had everything to pin on him, they didn't arrest nor pursue. I think he sees they're fresh and naive to the case and just pulling strings to see what come out. Maybe he can use them to help solve the case. In term's of Hart's daughter though, either he did or his father in law did. Someone mentioned the conversation between his father in law where his f.i.l said "Kids these days, wearing their dark makeup" which would be an allusion to Audrey, Hart's daughter.
 
KeithLockhart said:
Yeah the consensus online seems to be like Hart said "You were trying to get a read on Russ? He was getting a read on you." He was feeling out the detectives to see if they were involved. But ultimately I think they aren't, and just naive and trying to investigate how they normally would. Governor and Preacher are related, and when Cohle said "Big People", he was definitely referring to higher ups and rich men. Then Charlie who was in prison kept talking about "a place where rich men would go to worship the devil". Also, Cohle's big dramatic exit on the detectives was him seeing how they'd react. Since they felt they had everything to pin on him, they didn't arrest nor pursue. I think he sees they're fresh and naive to the case and just pulling strings to see what come out. Maybe he can use them to help solve the case. In term's of Hart's daughter though, either he did or his father in law did. Someone mentioned the conversation between his father in law where his f.i.l said "Kids these days, wearing their dark makeup" which would be an allusion to Audrey, Hart's daughter.
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Yeah. The father-in-law makes sense. It would explain why they introduced him.

Ugh. Can't stand that this is only eight episodes long.
 
KeithLockhart said:
I have this absurd theory... perhaps the Yellow King is the preacher from the tent? My brother and I have been watching this to find clues.
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Not at all absurd—it was actually my first thought when the character appeared, but I dismissed it as too obvious that the greasy, culty, snake-oil preacher would be the greasy, occulty, Cthulu-ecclesiastic. (Plus, he's Nucky Thompson's brother, so his recognizability made me they might be using him as a red-herring.)

Dalyn said:
Yeah. The father-in-law makes sense. It would explain why they introduced him.
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This is what I've been thinking over the past few days, especially since he hasn't recurred but was definitely featured over his few scenes. Plus he seemed to have a sinister air, as well as the socio-economic means to do a lot of things.

Dammit: I said I refused to speculate.
 
Watched the first two episodes again last night. A few things jump out.... There is a guy in police uniform through the first two episodes that no one introduces... He walks in the chiefs office directly after Hart looking all pissed off, and he is at the presser standing right behind them all pissed off. I don't think he is any yellow king or anything but he kept getting included in scenes early on.

Harts two little girls kind of doting and whispering about Cohle at dinner struck me differently than it did before.

The scene in the sheriffs office where "made in error" shows up for the first time and the scene at the brothel where she says take it up with the sheriff..... Also jumped out a bit.
 
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