Trump Covid
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57Brave
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“They were careless people...they smashed up things and creatures and then
retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was
that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made...”
—F. Scott Fitzgerald, “The Great Gatsby”
retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was
that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made...”
—F. Scott Fitzgerald, “The Great Gatsby”
Runnin
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Runnin
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That happens when you realize you have a deadly virus.
Runnin
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Trump's V.I.P. Syndrome Care Could Do More Harm Than Good
President Donald Trump is getting almost every medication available to help him fight off the new coronavirus. That might not be a good thing.
It’s a well-established phenomenon with its own name: V.I.P. Syndrome. Wealthy and well-known patients often have easy access to the most cutting-edge medical treatments. Taking care of high-profile personalities can put physicians under added public pressure, increasing the incentive to try out highly touted new medicines and procedures.
“Presidents get treated differently,” said Art Caplan, director of medical ethics at New York University Grossman School of Medicine. “Doctors get more aggressive. They are going to go in there and do everything that they can. You don’t want to be blamed for losing his life.”
Trump’s willingness to gamble on experimental treatments is well-established. He took the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a protective measure in May after an aide tested positive for the virus. He didn’t get infected, but subsequent studies failed to show the drug offers any benefit.
Since his diagnosis, Trump has been given a mix of experimental pharmaceuticals, most not yet individually approved and widely untested in combination. He is also taking over-the-counter drugs including zinc, melatonin and the antacid Pepcid, the White House has said.
The Kitchen-Sink Approach - Doctors giving Trump steroid to fight COVID-19
Trump’s doctors said Sunday they have also added dexamethasone to his care. While the steroid has been used for decades, there appears to be no data on how it might interact with remdesivir and Regeneron’s antibody drug in combination.
Sean Conley, Trump’s personal physician, has said he won’t skip any therapies that might benefit the president.
“We are maximizing all aspects of his care, attacking this virus in a multipronged approach,” Conley said during his first briefing about Trump’s condition. “This is the president and I didn’t want to hold anything back. If there was any possibility that it would add value to his care and expedite his return, I wanted to take it.”
The idea that doing something is better than inaction is a pervasive myth in medicine, said Vinay Prasad, associate professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. More than 90% of people recover from Covid-19 without doing anything, he said.
“From the point of view of what’s best for his health, it’s bad medicine,” Prasad said. “The reason we do the studies in the first place is we don’t know if the drugs work, let alone when they are given with other drugs that haven’t been proven.” The impression that prominent people have access to more treatment options, even if they are yet to show any benefit in large, rigorous studies, could be harmful, doctors said.
“It’s scientifically not a sound approach and it sends a message to the American people that if you are a V.I.P. there is something you can get that the rest of us can’t,” Jeremy Faust, an emergency medicine doctor at Brigham & Women’s Hospital in Boston and editor of Brief19, a daily roundup of news on SARS-CoV-2. “We don’t give that medication to the average person not because we don’t care about them. It’s because we don’t know if it will help or not.”
President Donald Trump is getting almost every medication available to help him fight off the new coronavirus. That might not be a good thing.
It’s a well-established phenomenon with its own name: V.I.P. Syndrome. Wealthy and well-known patients often have easy access to the most cutting-edge medical treatments. Taking care of high-profile personalities can put physicians under added public pressure, increasing the incentive to try out highly touted new medicines and procedures.
“Presidents get treated differently,” said Art Caplan, director of medical ethics at New York University Grossman School of Medicine. “Doctors get more aggressive. They are going to go in there and do everything that they can. You don’t want to be blamed for losing his life.”
Trump’s willingness to gamble on experimental treatments is well-established. He took the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a protective measure in May after an aide tested positive for the virus. He didn’t get infected, but subsequent studies failed to show the drug offers any benefit.
Since his diagnosis, Trump has been given a mix of experimental pharmaceuticals, most not yet individually approved and widely untested in combination. He is also taking over-the-counter drugs including zinc, melatonin and the antacid Pepcid, the White House has said.
The Kitchen-Sink Approach - Doctors giving Trump steroid to fight COVID-19
Trump’s doctors said Sunday they have also added dexamethasone to his care. While the steroid has been used for decades, there appears to be no data on how it might interact with remdesivir and Regeneron’s antibody drug in combination.
Sean Conley, Trump’s personal physician, has said he won’t skip any therapies that might benefit the president.
“We are maximizing all aspects of his care, attacking this virus in a multipronged approach,” Conley said during his first briefing about Trump’s condition. “This is the president and I didn’t want to hold anything back. If there was any possibility that it would add value to his care and expedite his return, I wanted to take it.”
The idea that doing something is better than inaction is a pervasive myth in medicine, said Vinay Prasad, associate professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. More than 90% of people recover from Covid-19 without doing anything, he said.
“From the point of view of what’s best for his health, it’s bad medicine,” Prasad said. “The reason we do the studies in the first place is we don’t know if the drugs work, let alone when they are given with other drugs that haven’t been proven.” The impression that prominent people have access to more treatment options, even if they are yet to show any benefit in large, rigorous studies, could be harmful, doctors said.
“It’s scientifically not a sound approach and it sends a message to the American people that if you are a V.I.P. there is something you can get that the rest of us can’t,” Jeremy Faust, an emergency medicine doctor at Brigham & Women’s Hospital in Boston and editor of Brief19, a daily roundup of news on SARS-CoV-2. “We don’t give that medication to the average person not because we don’t care about them. It’s because we don’t know if it will help or not.”
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Welp. She herself has now tested positive.
57Brave
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I didnt read funeral --- did you ?
Bet dollar next to a do nut you have no idea who we are talking about.
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Funeral ... see you have no idea who we are talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lum2YxbsarE
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and yes, you playing Rapid Response over a grieving widow's sentiment is Roger Stone level BS
zbhargrove
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Dear God... that means that Sean Gilmartin probably also has it.
57Brave
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Update—30 positive WH-orbit #COVID19 cases. *New:
D. Trump
M. Trump
Kayleigh McEnany*
Karoline Leavitt*
Chad Gilmartin*
H. Hicks
K. Conway
C. Christie
M. Lee
T. Tillis
R. Johnson
R. McDaniel
J. Jenkins
Bill Stepien
Nick Luna
1x WH jr staffer
3x reporters
11x Ohio debate staff
D. Trump
M. Trump
Kayleigh McEnany*
Karoline Leavitt*
Chad Gilmartin*
H. Hicks
K. Conway
C. Christie
M. Lee
T. Tillis
R. Johnson
R. McDaniel
J. Jenkins
Bill Stepien
Nick Luna
1x WH jr staffer
3x reporters
11x Ohio debate staff