Shows what you know. Supreme Court was never part of the plan.
Trump Indictment Watch
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Shows what you know. Supreme Court was never part of the plan.
cajunrevenge
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cajunrevenge
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I see MAGA's favorite talking point on all this is to say Trump was too stupid to know he lost. Now I am no legal scholar but in law when intent or what knowledge a person had is relevant theres generally "or a reasonable person would know". That Trump is such a delusional narcissist is not going to be a viable defense. The government wont have to prove Donald Trump knew he lost, they will only have to prove that a reasonable person would have known they lost with the information that was available to them. Thats why the indictment goes out of its way to add context to everyone who told him his claims were BS. MAGA sycophants can excuse all these people who are lifelong Republicans who voted for and supported Trumps re-election as secretly being biased against him but that **** doesnt hold up in court. If it was one person maybe it could possibly work. All these people from the VP to the AG to the Deputy White House Counsel to the Republican State Speakers etc. No jury in their right mind is going to believe all these people are secretly in a conspiracy to hide vote fraud evidence from the person they voted for and supported.
cajunrevenge
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And when are you going to tell us who the RINO Globalists secretly out to get Trump are on Team Trump? If you wait to determine who is honest by who flips on Trump you will be as transparent a joke as you have ever been.
Any rational person knows what this is about. Its been happening since 2016. Nullification project because the Globalists fear the populist movement.
To get more inspection of the obviously stolen election and for the federal legislature to get the election right. You know - one that reflects the will of the legal voters.
nsacpi
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No other president has been charged with these thangs. And neither is very poorly chosen one. He is instead charged under various parts of the statute book with a conspiracy to overthrow an election. A unique never before experienced crime (at the presidential level) that goes to the heart of our democratic system.
I have a world of respect for Amash but he is lumping a unique crime with other political disputes, which I agree should generally not be criminalized.
The use of precedent is an art. And the usefulness of precedent declines exponentially with the uniqueness of the crime.
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No other president has been charged with these thangs. And neither is very poorly chosen one. He is instead charged under various parts of the statute book with a conspiracy to overthrow an election. A unique never before experienced crime (at the presidential level) that goes to the heart of our democratic system.
I have a world of respect for Amash but he is lumping a unique crime with other political disputes, which I agree should generally not be criminalized.
The use of precedent is an art. And the usefulness of precedent declines exponentially with the uniqueness of the crime.
Oh you mean much worse actions that actually negatively impacted Americans as opposed to the criminalization of at this time unprovable claim?
nsacpi
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Attempting to steal an election and prevent the constitutionally ordained transfer of power is as bad as it gets in a democracy. I'm ok with criminalizing that even at the risk of some using it as an excuse to abrogate norms regarding the criminalization of political disputes.
What are you criminalizing again? Do you know the claims are false?
Oh thats right - You don't and your side fought tooth and nail to prevent any inspection.
Then you had hte whole January 6th debacle where we know there were dozens of agent provocateur's.
We all know whats happening...and so you do you.
its the same pattern every single time. Get out in front with a media blitz full of lies. When the truth starts coming out months later people have already moved onto the 'This is Big' story.
Its disgusting and there are always a few we can rely on to latch onto the BS narratives.
cajunrevenge
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Well thank you for admitting the crime. You can try and justify the crime all you want but it doesnt make a difference. Trump is accused of illegally trying to delay/stop the certification. You admitted he was trying to delay it. Check and mate.
cajunrevenge
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Did you even read this? First off its hilarious that you cherry pick which legal scholars whose opinion you accept. Second, there were no disputed states. And third, Pence does have the power to reject illegitimate electoral votes but not legitimate ones. The legitimate ones being the ones done in accordance with the law as certified by the states. The ones done in secret with no legitimacy that the Trump team tried to pass off were not legitimate electoral votes for him to accept. Glad that you accept these professors opinion because it shreds every argument you have tried to make. Read the first highlighted sentence "If there is a genuine dispute over the legitimacy of the certificate....". There was no genuine dispute.
cajunrevenge
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Garmel doesn't know what to do when confronted with facts.