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Yep.

Tax assessor is a joke. Anyone want to know how far off my tax assessor is ?

I'll repeat a story that I told Cajun awhile back.

I had a property that was assessed too low at around 10-12 K by the county.

It was easily worth 10 times that. If I had asked for a loan while correctly assessing that property's true value I would have committed fraud according to these nitwit judges.
 
If he personally indemnified the bonds what are we talking about ? He would have had to repay the bond amounts personally.

If the insurance carrier Zurich wanted independent numbers done- they have the power to do so- and did not.

I’m still not sure who has been wronged here.

Yep.

The whole thing might have have been a misunderstanding between the two parties in the 1st place or that Zurch is being a crybaby because they didn't do their homework. Regardless, no one was hurt.

This is weak sauce.
 
SFCs had this deceptive quality because the inflated estimated current values were calculated based on undisclosed false facts and fallacious assumptions known to the Trump Organization but kept from its counterparties.


Trump hid both the restrictions on the property and used a calculation based on recent home sales in the area which cant be right because he couldnt legally build houses on the property. So the calculation is blatantly fraudulent. He could have just said I personally, best businessman ever, could get 2 billion for it and it wouldnt be fraudulent because he was honest about how he got that valuation. Then a bank knows they probably need to get a second opinion on that. The key here is intent to deceive.
 
Whats an undisclosed false fact and how did zurich calculate based on that. Did Zurich ask?

Got a friend of a friend going through a divorce, shes asking for her portion of what went on the last loan application.

For tax purposes his value shows something different.

Is he going to get fined 500 MIllion by super legit Leticia James?
 
Cajun, it could have been a harmless oversight.

As someone who is is real estate I've made numerous blunders with no intention to deceive.

Real estate is complicated.

Regardless, the property's value looks to be correct.
 
1. Cash, Cash Equivalents, and Marketable Securities. Between 2013 and 2021, defendants included “cash” holdings of as much as $93.1 million for President Trump’s minority stake in Vornado Partnership Interests (Vornado). Defendants did so even though President Trump did not control the partnership, and thus did not have the right to use or withdraw funds held by Vornado.




2. Trump Park Avenue. Defendants valued Trump Park Avenue, a residential building in Manhattan, between $90 million and $350 million between 2011 and 2021, despite an appraisal of only $72.5 million. The appraisal, unlike defendants’ valuations, correctly accounted for many of the unsold residential units as rent-stabilized units, not market rate units. Rent-stabilized units are less valuable than market rate units.



3. 40 Wall Street. Defendants valued 40 Wall Street between $525 million and $796 million between the years of 2011 and 2021, despite appraisals ranging between $200 million and $540 million.




4. Seven Springs. Defendants valued Seven Springs, a 212-acre parcel of land in Westchester, between $261 million and $291 million between 2011 and 2021, despite a 2000 appraisal reflecting that the “as-is” market value for residential development was only $25 million.




5. The Triplex. Defendants misrepresented that President Trump’s condominium apartment in Trump Tower (the Triplex) occupied 30,000 square feet, instead of its actual 10,996 square footage and inflated the price per square foot, resulting in valuations ranging between $80 million and $327 million from 2011 through 2021, and inflating its value by up to $200 million through 2017.




6. Mar-a-Lago. Defendants’ valuations for Mar-a-Lago did not consider land restrictions and limitations that were agreed to and signed by President Trump, and which precluded the use of the property for anything other than a social club in exchange for reduced real estate and income tax benefits. As discussed at greater length below, each SFC between 2014 and 2021 overvalued Mar-a-Lago as if it could be sold as an unrestricted private residential property, contrary to the reality that Mar-a-Lago’s use was restricted to a social club.




7. Aberdeen. Defendants valued the Aberdeen golf property in Scotland as if over 2,500 private residences could be constructed and sold, when defendants obtained approval to develop less than 1,500 accommodations – most of which were unprofitable short-term rentals. Subsequently, defendants based their valuations on the assumption that 2,035 private homes could be developed and sold despite the Trump Organization’s application to reduce the project to 550 residences due to lack of profitability, which was approved. From year to year, the SFCs inflated the value of this property between $59 and $283 million.




8. Brand Premium. Defendants inflated the values of golf club properties between 15% to 30% based on the value purportedly associated with the Trump brand name, even though the SFCs provided that “goodwill attached to the Trump name has significant financial value that had not been reflected in the preparation of this financial statement.”
 
Yes, trying to get Trump on subjective numbers.

Property is worth what you can get for it.

Not what the government believes it is.
 
Cajun, it could have been a harmless oversight.

As someone who is is real estate I've made numerous blunders with no intention to deceive.

Real estate is complicated.

Regardless, the property's value looks to be correct.

If you applied for a loan and said I think its worth 100k thats fine because you are honest about how you arrived at that. If you said I had my home appraised by a professional appraiser and he valued it at 100k but that never happened. Again its about intent to deceive. And even then it has to be a pattern or practice to deceive. So over valuing one property wouldnt be an issue.
 
Yes, trying to get Trump on subjective numbers.

Property is worth what you can get for it.

Not what the government believes it is.

The banks interested in how much they can get for it quickly if he defaulted and they had to repo it. That Trump big strong powerful man can get infinity dollars from the Prince of Mars is irrelevant. He simply could have put "MARALAGO is worth 12 billion because I said so" and it wouldnt have been an issue.
 
The banks interested in how much they can get for it quickly if he defaulted and they had to repo it. That Trump big strong powerful man can get infinity dollars from the Prince of Mars is irrelevant. He simply could have put "MARALAGO is worth 12 billion because I said so" and it wouldnt have been an issue.
Then the bank needs to do their own valuation . No one’s forcing them to loan money.
 

I dunno, the Trump Administration seems to be pretty concerned with these types of issues.

What got these people initially in trouble?

Cook and James looks to have falsified their residence statuses for their properties.

That's hardly subjective.

Schiff deliberately leaked classified info to hurt Trump.
 
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