Uggla likely to not be on NLDS roster

For those still thinking Uggla should be on the roster or is in any way better than Elliot Johnson at this point, you're delusional, and this line sums it up:

The veteran second baseman has hit .133 with one home run and a .508 OPS in the 77 plate appearances he has compiled while playing 24 games since undergoing LASIK surgery to repair his vision in August.
 
It is my opinion that Uggla should be on the roster, more out of a sense of loyalty to the guy since he's been on the roster all year.

Plus, he is probably the second best RH bat off the bench (behind Laird) since he is a power threat and can take a walk. You obviously wouldn't use him in a spot where a productive out is required, but there are times when that HR threat resulting in a walk could be useful. Basically, any situation where the pitcher would pitch around a HR threat would be an ideal spot to PH Uggla because he has shown he will take that walk. Someone like BJ or Janish or Schafer will just be mowed down by the same pitcher because nobody fears their power.

Building the roster with the mindset of having backups is not the way to go for the playoffs, in my opinion. You need guys that can be used as weapons in certain specific situations. HR threats, base stealing threats, guys that can make productive outs, guys in the BP to take advantage of platoon splits, things like that. And then those threats must be used correctly.
 
Enscheff said:
It is my opinion that Uggla should be on the roster, more out of a sense of loyalty to the guy since he's been on the roster all year.

Plus, he is probably the second best RH bat off the bench (behind Laird) since he is a power threat and can take a walk. You obviously wouldn't use him in a spot where a productive out is required, but there are times when that HR threat resulting in a walk could be useful. Basically, any situation where the pitcher would pitch around a HR threat would be an ideal spot to PH Uggla because he has shown he will take that walk. Someone like BJ or Janish or Schafer will just be mowed down by the same pitcher because nobody fears their power.

Building the roster with the mindset of having backups is not the way to go for the playoffs, in my opinion. You need guys that can be used as weapons in certain specific situations. HR threats, base stealing threats, guys that can make productive outs, guys in the BP to take advantage of platoon splits, things like that. And then those threats must be used correctly.
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How the heck can you consider Uggla a HR threat when he has hit ONE!!!!! in his past over 100 ABs. He's done.
 
Uggla's hit lefties worse than righties this year (which is consistent with the pattern for his career), which further reduces the argument of keeping him on the bench as a righty bat.

He has hit Nolasco extremely well and I would have put him in the starting lineup for that game. I'm ok with starting Elliot Johnson for most of the games, but we need to be realistic about him too. I think given the options at second you mix and match the best you can taking into account the opposing pitcher and whether your own starter is a groundball or flyball pitcher.
 
Good to see they have come to realization that Uggla isnt just slumping, he is this bad. Hope they just bench or release him and get a new 2B for next year. No team has made the playoffs with a starting position player hitting .190 or less since 1906 and the Braves did it with 2 of them this year. Can only imagine how good this team would be if we could just plug in .700 OPS players in CF and 2B.

I have always said if your going to have to deal with a crappy hitter atleast go with a good defensive one. They might not hit a lick but preventing a run is just as good as scoring one.
 
PawPawMaxwell said:
But that still puts us at a disadvantage. AL teams dont have to deal with a patchwork lineup and worrying who can and who cant catch the ball.
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The best team in the AL had a pretty patchwork lineup a lot of the year; the victorious team in last night's AL play-in did as well.

I think slotting Gattis at DH/C and McCann at C/DH, with Schafer, Reed Johnson, or BJ playing playing in the outfield, is a better alignment than anything the Braves will field in the NL-only portion of the playoffs.
 
NYCBrave said:
How the heck can you consider Uggla a HR threat when he has hit ONE!!!!! in his past over 100 ABs. He's done.
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Whether or not he is hitting HRs is immaterial. He is seen as a HR threat, so he is pitched accordingly. And when pitchers try to pitch around him, Uggla takes his walk.

I'm not saying it's a potent weapon to have on the bench, but it is a weapon nontheless. Janish is not a weapon in any shape or form.
 
nsacpi said:
Uggla's hit lefties worse than righties this year (which is consistent with the pattern for his career), which further reduces the argument of keeping him on the bench as a righty bat.

He has hit Nolasco extremely well and I would have put him in the starting lineup for that game. I'm ok with starting Elliot Johnson for most of the games, but we need to be realistic about him too. I think given the options at second you mix and match the best you can taking into account the opposing pitcher and whether your own starter is a groundball or flyball pitcher.
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See that doesn't tell the whole story, but I looked it up just to be sure. Sure, his numbers vs. Nolasco OVERALL on paper look good, but here's the past two years since he's turned into garbage:

Uggla Vs. Nolasco

2012: 0-3 (2 BBs)
2013: 1-4 (single)
 
Enscheff said:
Whether or not he is hitting HRs is immaterial. He is seen as a HR threat, so he is pitched accordingly. And when pitchers try to pitch around him, Uggla takes his walk.

I'm not saying it's a potent weapon to have on the bench, but it is a weapon nontheless. Janish is not a weapon in any shape or form.
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Realistically, the only thing we could ever hope for out of Uggla is a walk. Janish, he should never see an AB in the post season. He should strictly be a defensive replacement for CJ at 3rd or sac bunt or run for someone.
 
Yeah, this is dumb. Personally I think he should still be starting, but to not even have him available to PH is asinine.
 
Uggla will probably have some value to a non-contender looking to take a flier on catching lightning in a bottle in hopes of having a trade piece at next year's deadline. A non-contending team could pay him $5M and hope he figures it out. If he does they swap him to a contender for a prospect. If he doesn't they lost $5M and are still a non-contender.

Then the Braves sign Cano! Wahoo!!

Too early for 2014 lineup posts?

Heyward RF

JUp LF

Cano 2B

Freeman 1B

Gattis C

CJ 3B

BJ CF

Simmons SS

2014 WS champs!!
 
emk418 said:
Have you watched baseball the last 3 years? How can you say he should be starting?
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Janish (past 3 years/majors) - .214 .259 .262 .521 / .186 .269 .234 .502 / .171 .222 .220 .442

EJ (past 3 years/majors) - .194 .257 .338 .595 / .242 .304 .350 .654 / .209 .255 .283 .538

Uggla (past 3 years/majors) - .233 .311 .453 .764 / .220 .348 .384 .732 / .179 .309 .362 .671
 
Dalyn said:
Janish (past 3 years/majors) - .214 .259 .262 .521 / .186 .269 .234 .502 / .171 .222 .220 .442

EJ (past 3 years/majors) - .194 .257 .338 .595 / .242 .304 .350 .654 / .209 .255 .283 .538

Uggla (past 3 years/majors) - .233 .311 .453 .764 / .220 .348 .384 .732 / .179 .309 .362 .671
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I know he asked for a 3 year sample, but you gotta go with "what have you done for me lately". With Janish and Uggla, it's zero. At least we get a slight something out of Elliot Johnson, even if most of that value comes from fielding and stealing bases.
 
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