Updated Farm Rankings + Updated Prospect Valuation Charts (Fangraphs)

Super said:
yeah, i don't think newcomb has a lot of value league-wide.
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That's the part of being a GM we really can't simulate. We don't actually know how much value guys carry.

I would think there would be skepticism about Newcomb league wide, which makes him the more likely candidate to hold and see if he can replicate his first half. But maybe he's beloved.

I just tend to think that if there is a guy that a fanbase and front office seems willing to deal that the rest of the league isn't clueless as to why.
 
Southcack77 said:
That's the part of being a GM we really can't simulate. We don't actually know how much value guys carry.

I would think there would be skepticism about Newcomb league wide, which makes him the more likely candidate to hold and see if he can replicate his first half. But maybe he's beloved.

I just tend to think that if there is a guy that a fanbase and front office seems willing to deal that the rest of the league isn't clueless as to why.
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Ehhhh, usually I think we can get pretty close to what the general consensus on a player is league wide, value-wise. Sometimes you can get a really young player like Newcomb who may have a wide range of projections that screw with the SV formula, but I would say that is the exception and not the rule. The SV formula is almost always pretty close to what actually ends up happening.
 
Southcack77 said:
That's the part of being a GM we really can't simulate. We don't actually know how much value guys carry.

I would think there would be skepticism about Newcomb league wide, which makes him the more likely candidate to hold and see if he can replicate his first half. But maybe he's beloved.

I just tend to think that if there is a guy that a fanbase and front office seems willing to deal that the rest of the league isn't clueless as to why.
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I'm in the camp that thinks there is a fair amount of difference of opinion among the front offices.

If we offered a choice of two of Newk, Anderson, Wright, Touki and Wilson to other major league teams, there wouldn't be a strong consensus in who they chose. Even if you threw out the teams that are rebuilding and don't care about 2019.

So I would offer a choice of any two of those five to the Mariners for Paxton.

And same offer to the Indians for Carrasco or Bauer.

I think we would have a good chance of striking a deal on that basis. And I think Newcomb would be one of the players chosen by the other team.
 
Newk is in that gray area where it’s hard to value him. No longer a prospect, but not enough track record to predict with any sense of accuracy. The good news for the Braves is that “stuff guys” tend to hold their trade value as other teams continue to dream “what if?”.

I see Newk as a 1-2 win guy who is likely to end up taking the Oliver Perez route to the BP going forward, but some other team may think they can “fix” him and make him a 2-3 win SP with upside for even more. That team would be the team I’d be searching for if I’m AA. If the Indians are that team, and Newk is the centerpiece of a Kluber/Carrasco trade, then it becomes a bit of a no-brainer to make that deal as far as I’m concerned.

As usual, whether or not a trade makes sense all depends on the value given up.
 
Dont think Newk has a ton of value, especially for a guy like Carrasco or Kluber.

I'd think they want one of our top pitching prospects, one of Riley or Pache, and a lesser pitching prospect as a starting point.
 
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