Viz and Teheran listed as top trade candidates
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We match up well with the Rangers. On the surface we have players they would be interested in with Julio, Vizcaino, Flowers, and Inciarte. They have Gallo, Profar, Brinson, and Cordell.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
sturg33
I
Agreed... too redundant to what we already have
We may have stuff they are interested in, but no thanks on any of their prospects outside of Ortiz. All of their hitters have major contact issues outside of Profar, who's not very interesting due to limited years of control (not even going into the whole injury issues out the wazoo). Gallo and Brinson just scream bust city.
Just curious, but where have you read anything that says the Astros are completely against moving Bregman?
While this is typically the case, it's very unlikely that SOMEONE wouldn't have heard that Houston was interested to some extent in a market as bereft of SP options as today's is. Would make for one *ell of an upset if they were "in" on him and were able to keep people from hearing they were - N. C. State over Phi Slamma Jamma level of upset.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I really like Julio, but I don't think Houston's park is the optimum place for him to pitch. If Seattle were to stay in the race, it would seem that park would be more conducive to Julio's flyball tendencies.
The is the kind of crap I can't believe is written by you. You go weeks posting nothing but thoughtful intelligent baseball commentary, and then drop insane comments like this.
That .734 OPS you are dinging Castro for this season is very close to the .761 OPS Weiters is posting this year, and even closer to his .744 career OPS.
Another number you might be interested in? $30 million, the probably amount of Castro's next contract. Much lower than the contract values thrown out for Weiters.
So let's see....
A 30 year old catcher with elite defense and .705 career OPS who will sign for $30, vs
A 31 year old catcher who is always hurt with terrible defense and .744 career OPS who will sign for 2x that much.
Choice is pretty clear to me who the Braves should target.
It very well could be my preference for Bregman and wishful thinking, but the trades discussed at nauseam are the ones that do not happen.
I don't have a preference, but there may be some bias here. Castros OPS the last two years has been .648 and .651. In 2013 he had a .835, but also had a .351 BABIP when he's more of a .290-.300. This year's OPS has been helped by a 15.5% walk rate that will probably end up around 10% by year end.
Last year there was a projection of 4-60 for Wieters. If there's a 3/30 for Castro that's technically double, but also an extra year. So it should be 40 vs 60 for comparison.
Wieters has not had a bad injury history. he got injured in 2014, hit the DL and then had surgery. He came back in 2015 and played the rest of the season. He just missed two halves, but it was one injury and one recovery time.
OK, then here's a few more numbers...
.763 - Castro's career OPS vs RHed pitching, which is what he should be facing if platooned with Flowers.
1.8 - The projected WAR for Wieters this season.
2.2 - the projected WAR for Castro this season.
And I bet Castro signs for less than 3/30. That was just a number I threw out there so as to not be accused of low balling his contract to better make my point.
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
not so sure about Gallo, true he K's a lot, but he also walks a lot, he might turn out to be Adam Dunn with better defense, and that's pretty damn serviceable.
Could be, but given he's struggling to make contact in AAA I wouldn't bet on it. Highly ranked busts generally have really questionable contact skills and poor K rates, and many times have to repeat levels to gain success. Gallo checks both boxes there, I think he's far more likely to bust than be a 40 HR monster. And even if he does turn into Adam Dunn somewhat, those types of hitters age badly and tend to flame out fast. I'm not comfortable trading Julio for a guy hitting under .250 at AAA.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Gallo has monster power.. but a guy who K's at 40% in the minors with 1500 + PA.. that is something that probably won't get better in the majors.
If I'm Texas, I'm definitely looking for a good opportunity to deal Gallo. I just think there's a pretty good chance his value is never higher than it is right now.
ETA: In regard to the Adam Dunn comp, Dunn's K rate in the minors was under 20%. Not even close to Gallo's.
ETA: In regard to the Adam Dunn comp, Dunn's K rate in the minors was under 20%. Not even close to Gallo's.
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
that .300+ ISO though...... that's elite power.
Sure, he along with Bryant and Schwarber probably have the best in game power of anyone in baseball. But it means nothing if you can't make contact.
You brought upAdam Dunn, but he's not a great comparison when comparing minor league numbers. Dunn smoked the minors, and didn't struggle anywhere. And while he did K a bit, he only had a around a 22% K rate in the minors, which jumped to 28% in the majors. As Matt said, K rates rarely get better in the majors.
Beyond that, the best way to tell he's fools gold is the fact he's in AAA right now. The Rangers are starting two negative WAR players at 1B and DH, if they believed in his skills right now he'd be starting for them somewhere.
Adam Dunn batted .304 in the minors (including .334 in his only stops at AA/AAA) while striking out in less than 20% of his plate appearances. Players who are destined to be good hitters in the majors generally don't strike out in 34% of their plate appearances or bat .256 against minor league pitching.