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[BedellBrave]

To be honest, I don't even know what you're talking about with that.

My line? I really don't care that much about fetuses. I really, really don't. Once they are breathing and walking around I think they should get the full package of rights and respect. I guess I would defer to where a group of women say it should be.

If you must, it would depend greatly upon the mother's circumstances and wishes, but I think the halfway point makes sense. Say, 19 weeks.

We are talking about the right to live. The right to drink a beer isn't the question.

Then you aren't defending infanticide. Good. That's a positive.

 

[Hawk]

It's her legal right to have the innocent and defenseless and dependent child within her womb (or in 57's case outside the womb) mutilated and killed.

But don't forget that even if it's not murdered it's doomed to a miserable existence because she doesn't want it.

 

[BedellBrave]

i really am curious about the research

link to read about it since bedell won't pass a long the info to me?

I'm sure you can use Google to see what one does with a human brain ripped out of a child outside the womb. Can probably do all kinds of things with it.

 

[BedellBrave]

Does that take you to Bedell's school of thought that contraception too is a form of "infanticide" ??

At what point is this about telling women when where and how to have sex.

No more no less -- than where abortion / contraception are the "Southern Heritage / States Rights " equivalent.

A smoke screen

Good frickin grief.

 

[BedellBrave]

Is that what you've read ?

I've overrated your reading abilities and sense of sarcasm

I'm not sure I'd employ sarcasm like you do. I find it fairly revolting.

 

[BedellBrave]

we disagree

That's true. But that fact isn't an argument for your heinous view.

 

[BedellBrave]

We disagree in that I think it is up to the mother to decide.

Not you

Not me

Not the state

The mother and who ever she deems her higher power.

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As of today - the law of the land grants that woman the right to choose

So the law gives her the right to have a doctor or technician kill her child born alive?

 

[BedellBrave]

A baby outside of the womb is an infant...is that up for debate?

Evidently. See that way 57 can say he doesn't believe in infanticide. Convenient that. I think he ought to have the balls and own his heinous view.

 

[BedellBrave]

Leave it to the mother. Besides, you're a man - you're not allowed to say a mother can't kill her crying infant.

In fact, might as well expand that to kindergarden

I'd be getting worried if I was a 30 year old still living at home...

 

[BedellBrave]

This thread has been about as funny as a thread could be, except people's opinions here are sincere and the lies being spread actually hurt people. That's the sad part.

What lies would that be zeets? And yeah people are being hurt alright....

 

[BedellBrave]

No, because that's an asinine opinion to have.

But you're hurting people if you get rid of abortions. What are the odds that a child who's unwanted by his/her parents amounts to much of anything in the world? Seriously?

I'd say there are a lot of adopted children who'd disagree with you on your view their kiddo. And evidently the 'fetus' that seeks to avoid the abortion's tools would too.

 

[BedellBrave]

Considering your overall opinions you've posted, including you think men should have a say on abortions, yeah, I don't think you're pro-abortion.

And this thread is about Bedell posting these stupid videos that have many issues but he takes as word of god.

You're a funny guy zito... Keep defending PP.

 

[zitothebrave]

What lies would that be zeets? And yeah people are being hurt alright....

I posted a link a page or 2 ago that picked apart lies in the video. It's one word with a link "whoops"

 

[zitothebrave]

You're a funny guy zito... Keep defending PP.

Yup. Because I believe that everyone should have access to reproductive healthcare.

 

[BedellBrave]

" " I don't see them as humans until they are cut from the chord. Just another organism supported by the human (woman) that is carrying them."

never said what you wrote.

nor did I write "kill a crying baby"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/

Full Definition of FETUS

: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth

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So a child fully intact, that is outside the womb, that has passed through birth canal, can be considered "unborn"?

 

[BedellBrave]

Look sturg with an uneducated opinion shocker. You know how hard it is for a woman with child to find a good job that allows her to raise a child? For real, your ignorance is baffling.

Misogyny doesn't surprise me, it's just stupid.

Oh look zeets has learned a new, shiny, word that he keeps trying to use. Cute.

 

[BedellBrave]

If the man wants a child he should pro-create with a woman who wants a child.

I've never ****ed a girl who is baby crazy. I only go for ones who abortion is an option and we know that we don't want it. Period.

You are quite the stud.

 

[zitothebrave]

Oh look zeets has learned a new, shiny, word that he keeps trying to use. Cute.

If you don't think that sturg's posts about men being as involved with the birth process as women as being misogynist, well you're also hopeless.

 

[BedellBrave]

Correct. You do realize this hit job stuff you've been posting has pretty much done nothing.

Glad you are owning the reality. I'm not sure how one determines "has pretty much done nothing." I know it's no argument for the moral legitimacy of what is being done in the PP chop-shops and over nice glasses or wine.

 

[BedellBrave]

But don't forget that even if it's not murdered it's doomed to a miserable existence because she doesn't want it.

And it should never be given a vote in it all.