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Anyone else immediately think of 300 when you read the thread title?

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I thought you were smart enough to not be spoon fed. My bad.

- I can't compare different insurance policies

- I can't buy-up, or buy-down for extra/less coverage

- I can't go to other doctors for faster service

- I can't choose NOT to pay for heath care

And - that's not even discussing the lack of choice from the doctor's prospective

Now - you can answer my question. What choice do I have with single payer?
 
I thought you were smart enough to not be spoon fed. My bad.

- I can't compare different insurance policies

- I can't buy-up, or buy-down for extra/less coverage

- I can't go to other doctors for faster service

- I can't choose NOT to pay for heath care

And - that's not even discussing the lack of choice from the doctor's prospective

Now - you can answer my question. What choice do I have with single payer?
 
sturg33 said:
I thought you were smart enough to not be spoon fed. My bad.

- I can't compare different insurance policies

- I can't buy-up, or buy-down for extra/less coverage

- I can't go to other doctors for faster service

- I can't choose NOT to pay for heath care

And - that's not even discussing the lack of choice from the doctor's prospective

Now - you can answer my question. What choice do I have with single payer?
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why don't you think you could get insurance on your own and do all of those things you listed if there is a single payer option? i know people in a single payer nations that also have private health insurance.

"- I can't choose NOT to pay for heath care" this is a weird one though but whatever

you have as many choices as you want in singe payer. if you want to use it, you can. if you don't want to, you don't have to. if you want more insurance, go get it.
 
57Brave said:
"I've hated this debate since I've since learned of it in high school in the 80s. Back then I was opposed to it, and then I learned how complicated these decisions really are. Even then, I hated all graphic descriptions of fetuses or babies -- whichever your preferred term.

Now, that I support choice, I still hate all the descriptions. I hate more that the assumption is that every woman who gets an abortion does so because she's 16 or younger and doesn't know any better. That's not true. In fact, it's a lie -- which is also a sin.

No, it's not an easy decision, but that doesn't mean it's not the best one to be made at the time. And all those pictures really hurt those who lose their babies naturally. Nothing like rubbing it in their face because you have something to prove that doesn't even apply to them."
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It's certainly your right to continue to support the elective mutilation of the most defenseless and innocent of human beings and the harvesting of their organs. It's a heinous choice, but you and others make it.
 
57Brave said:
“I gave birth to two premature kids,” said California’s Barbara Boxer on the Senate floor last week, during the debate over cutting federal funds to Planned Parenthood. Boxer sounded impatient, irritated. “I just don’t like lectures by men about what it’s like.”
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I'm not really concerned with Boxer being irritated.
 
57Brave said:
My guess is the people that benefit the most from the info below won't read it for whatever reason.

But, the

Funny thing is, it is the first female opinion to this forum of this endless and at times silly debate that seems to rear it's head in every policy discussion.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/08/the-big-secret-of-abortion.html

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Sixty-one percent of women who seek abortions already have at least one child. More than a third already have at least two children. Women know what pregnancy is and what abortion does. Perhaps it’s this common calculation that keeps so many women (and men) grateful to an organization dedicated to the maintenance of women’s bodies. An NBC News–Wall Street Journal poll, released after the fetal-parts videos, showed Planned Parenthood with a net favorability rating of 45 percent, higher than Donald Trump, the Democratic and Republican parties, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the Supreme Court, and the National Rifle Association.
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Grateful for the elective destruction of human life and the selling of the human body parts? Yeah, I don't contest that there are many living human beings who are. Like I said Jeremiah Wright was right.
 
57Brave said:
"I've hated this debate since I've since learned of it in high school in the 80s. Back then I was opposed to it, and then I learned how complicated these decisions really are. Even then, I hated all graphic descriptions of fetuses or babies -- whichever your preferred term.

Now, that I support choice, I still hate all the descriptions. I hate more that the assumption is that every woman who gets an abortion does so because she's 16 or younger and doesn't know any better. That's not true. In fact, it's a lie -- which is also a sin.

No, it's not an easy decision, but that doesn't mean it's not the best one to be made at the time. And all those pictures really hurt those who lose their babies naturally. Nothing like rubbing it in their face because you have something to prove that doesn't even apply to them."
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Not the ones i know. The ones I know who have lost their babies naturally are very pro-life. Anecdotal evidence is just that though. At least this person knows that her "complicated issue" is sin. That's a start.
 
57Brave said:
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And? You act as if all women are in favor of the elective mutilation and destruction of the most defenseless and innocent of human beings (they aren't) and since they are then men should just shut up. Never have gotten the "logic" of that. Course I know it is based on the false idea that child in her womb is her - a totally specious argument.
 
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