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I've seen studies that show that you're much more likely to be molested by a school teacher than a Catholic priest. Hardly an epidemic.
 
Garmel said:
I've seen studies that show that you're much more likely to be molested by a school teacher than a Catholic priest. Hardly an epidemic.
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Whoever is doing the molesting, there are a lot more child victims of molestation by an adult than there are victims of terrorist attacks in the United States.

PS--And count me among those who believe that all child molesters regardless of race, creed, or religion should be punished to the full extent of the law, cultural excuses or not. We still have forced child marriages (though they are often secret) in the Hmong population in Minnesota. That has to stop.
 
thethe said:
How about flat out raping? Genital mutulation? The false equivalenCy of comparing Islam and Christianity/Catholicism is disgraceful.
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Meanwhile, it's just straight-up false that "liberals give muslims a pass when it comes to child molesting."
 
jpx7 said:
Erdogan is a terrible tyrant. He's not representative of most/all Turks, much less most/all Muslims.
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You can remove all. The question is how would you define most? 80%? 90%? Even if it's 10% that agree that a scary number.
 
jpx7 said:
I'd find it equally disturbing if Steven Bannon represents even 10% of US citizens' views.
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Well regualr citizens aren't going around killing groups of innocent people so it's a false statement. Westerners need to stop sugarcoating how evil Islmaists are.
 
thethe said:
Well regualr citizens aren't going around killing groups of innocent people so it's a false statement. Westerners need to stop sugarcoating how evil Islmaists are.
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Evil wears many skins. Beyond human loss of life, ISIL has committed some of the most heinous acts of recent memory by systematically destroying our collective cultural heritage; I refuse, however, to equate ISIL with Islam (in the catholic sense) simply because they claim Islam as their own to interpret and pervert. Evil is done in many names, but we double-down on that evil by accepting at face value the proposition that evil done in the name of something makes that something itself evil.
 
jpx7 said:
Evil wears many skins. Beyond human loss of life, ISIL has committed some of the most heinous acts of recent memory by systematically destroying our collective cultural heritage; I refuse, however, to equate ISIL with Islam (in the catholic sense) simply because they claim Islam as their own to interpret and pervert. Evil is done in many names, but we double-down on that evil by accepting at face value the proposition that evil done in the name of something makes that something itself evil.
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So if Islam didn't exist do you think there would be large grouping's of radicals in the middle east? Do you think there would be some countries where over 50% believe in Sharia law?

Islam is a large part of the problem right now. Why aren't there large terrorist organizations around the globe that pracTice other religons?
 
thethe said:
Well regualr citizens aren't going around killing groups of innocent people so it's a false statement. Westerners need to stop sugarcoating how evil Islmaists are.
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A white supremacist went to New York yesterday with the express intent of killing black men, because of his beliefs about the violation of white womanhood or some such thing.

He stabbed a guy to death. He's hardly the first to kill in the name of that ideology. Using your logic, what are we to extrapolate from his actions?
 
Julio3000 said:
A white supremacist went to New York yesterday with the express intent of killing black men, because of his beliefs about the violation of white womanhood or some such thing.

He stabbed a guy to death. He's hardly the first to kill in the name of that ideology. Using your logic, what are we to extrapolate from his actions?
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When a global movement arises and people are killed by the hundreds on a monthly basis I'll extrapolate.
 
It's those types of false equivalence that confuse people as to the real threat. Radical Islam is a global movement that endangers the world.
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm all for kicking the **** out of ISIS.

Broadly speaking, I feel like that's doing the world a favor.

I'm not for conflating them with other people who practice the religion that they claim.
 
Julio3000 said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm all for kicking the **** out of ISIS.

Broadly speaking, I feel like that's doing the world a favor.

I'm not for conflating them with other people who practice the religion that they claim.
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But it's not just ISIS. Its Alqaeda...it's Boko Haram....It's Hezbollah

What do they all have in common? Well for one they all practice Islam.
 
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