What to do with Uggla now?

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Lenny

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Now that the season is over, and Uggla was left off the playoff roster, does he really have a place with this team next year? I know a lot of players let things like this really get to them and he probably won't have a good attitude towards the Braves next year. With him making 13 mil the next 2 years, and his bad performance the past few years, I don't know how we can trade him for anything or even get another team to take him at all.
 
If we pay most of his salary and don't expect much back I think he is tradeable. He can't be happy with the Braves leaving him off the roster and it probably would be better for all concerned if he was just moved.
 
Designate him for assignment. Hope someone claims. if not, Kawakami his butt to Mississippi and hope he retires. Which is a shame, because he truly seems like a great guy.
 
See what he does in the spring. He's basically unmovable, so you don't have to be in any hurry to move him. I think some people underestimate how long it takes to get that vision stuff sorted out. Now, I've heard that his eyes may even be worse. If that's the case, then try to get him to retire here so the Braves can get some insurance money.
 
We need some luck there. Cleveland picked up more of Lowe's last year of salary that I expected anyone would. The Angels got lucky when the Yankees decided to pay 11.5M of Vernon Wells salary in 2013 and 2.4M in 2014. I'm sure the Cubs are happy too with how much of Soriano's salary the Yankees picked up as well as the prospect they got in that trade. Timing is everything with these types of transactions. You need something to happen to make a team desperate for a second baseman. We'll see. Keep our fingers crossed. We need to be patient because until someone becomes desperate for a second baseman there isn't going to be much of a market for him.
 
It doesn't matter. Trade him and eat most of his salary or release him. Bottom line is he can't be on the team next year. We're not getting anything useful back for him.
 
emk418 said:
It doesn't matter. Trade him and eat most of his salary or release him. Bottom line is he can't be on the team next year. We're not getting anything useful back for him.
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Unfortunately I think this is exactly the case. Bottom line is Uggla cannot be a part of our team next year, Tommy La Stella needs to be our new second baseman.
 
skillet said:
Unfortunately I think this is exactly the case. Bottom line is Uggla cannot be a part of our team next year, Tommy La Stella needs to be our new second baseman.
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I think having someone like Infante in this lineup would be huge. Sign him and give La Stella a chance to take over mid season.
 
chopdrew said:
See what he does in the spring. He's basically unmovable, so you don't have to be in any hurry to move him. I think some people underestimate how long it takes to get that vision stuff sorted out. Now, I've heard that his eyes may even be worse. If that's the case, then try to get him to retire here so the Braves can get some insurance money.
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Like I said last night, no one is going to trade for him prior to seeing him in spring training.

I've never liked Uggla as a player and was against signing him to an extension when he was traded to us. He was a bargain for the Marlins, but he hasn't been for us. Very one-dimensional guy. There's a reason why he was a Rule 5 pick. The fact that he's done as well as he has is rare among Rule 5 picks.

Like chopdrew, I have had the impression that Uggla's vision problems are perhaps more significant than advertised. His downturn was so dramatic after the surgery that I wondered if the problems were worse than we know.

Anyway, his status is a big question going into the off-season. Even if he could be traded, expect him to be carrying a big bag of cash to his new destination and a mid- to low-level prospect coming our way.
 
skillet said:
Unfortunately I think this is exactly the case. Bottom line is Uggla cannot be a part of our team next year, Tommy La Stella needs to be our new second baseman.
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Yea and so does Ryne Sandberg. You can't just promote a kid who's never seen a major league pitch. I don't care what becomes of Dan...trade him and eat salary or hire someone to knock him off. He's got this franchise by the balls and we are all pretty much sick of his ****. He needs to go.
 
jsebe10 said:
Yea and so does Ryne Sandberg. You can't just promote a kid who's never seen a major league pitch. I don't care what becomes of Dan...trade him and eat salary or hire someone to knock him off. He's got this franchise by the balls and we are all pretty much sick of his ****. He needs to go.
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Everyone needs to see a first pitch at some point. What difference is it if it's in meaningless games like Freddie, or to start the year like Jason. Only positive to waiting a bit is like Simmons we'd keep him under control longer.

No one will take Uggla, we're stuck with him. I'd start him out and if he struggles in April replace him with LaStella.
 
I hold out some hope that maybe for some people there is an adjustment period after LASIK. The Dan Uggla of the first half of 2013 was actually an acceptable player for us. If we can get that back, I'd be happy.
 
50PoundHead said:
Like I said last night, no one is going to trade for him prior to seeing him in spring training.

I've never liked Uggla as a player and was against signing him to an extension when he was traded to us. He was a bargain for the Marlins, but he hasn't been for us. Very one-dimensional guy. There's a reason why he was a Rule 5 pick. The fact that he's done as well as he has is rare among Rule 5 picks.

Like chopdrew, I have had the impression that Uggla's vision problems are perhaps more significant than advertised. His downturn was so dramatic after the surgery that I wondered if the problems were worse than we know.

Anyway, his status is a big question going into the off-season. Even if he could be traded, expect him to be carrying a big bag of cash to his new destination and a mid- to low-level prospect coming our way.
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If vision really is the key to his current state, then that's at least correctable. He's got the entire off-season to get that sorted out through medical attention. It can't be blamed on his physical conditioning, because he's probably is near the top in physical strength.

As for the people jumping on the LaStrella bandwagon, that solution seems a bit premature. Probably nobody here's even seen him play yet, and are not qualified to say that he deserves more than a promotion to AAA.
 
nsacpi said:
I hold out some hope that maybe for some people there is an adjustment period after LASIK. The Dan Uggla of the first half of 2013 was actually an acceptable player for us. If we can get that back, I'd be happy.
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Agree except if you are getting paid $13 million per year, one would like more than "acceptable." But if he gets back to the mid-.700s in OPS, that would earn his place and may pique interest.
 
It just defied all odds that two top paid players, with Uggla & BJ, would tank that much. Then consider the fact that the team was able to overcome their deficiencies enough to capture a division title.
 
There can be an adjustment period for Lasik. The vision in the eye can flucuate for months depending on the time of day. Vision is generally better in the morning and worse at night
nsacpi said:
I hold out some hope that maybe for some people there is an adjustment period after LASIK. The Dan Uggla of the first half of 2013 was actually an acceptable player for us. If we can get that back, I'd be happy.
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Knucksie said:
If vision really is the key to his current state, then that's at least correctable. He's got the entire off-season to get that sorted out through medical attention. It can't be blamed on his physical conditioning, because he's probably is near the top in physical strength.

As for the people jumping on the LaStrella bandwagon, that solution seems a bit premature. Probably nobody here's even seen him play yet, and are not qualified to say that he deserves more than a promotion to AAA.
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I'm on the La Stella bandwagon but no way do I want him starting opening day. If he earns the spot midseason then fine but no way does he get handed the job.
 
Have heard reports that LaStella's defense makes Uggla look like a gold glover.

I want to see a lot more before plugging him into the 2B job.... A lot more...
 
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