What would Ender bring in a trade

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Keith Law suggested trading Ender in his chat today. Not really advocating one way or another but it spurred quite a debate on twitter

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I think Ender is fantastic but I'd explore trading anyone if it helped us. I was trying to think of teams that needed a CF. I know the Cubs could use him and inquired about him before. Maybe the Dodgers, Yankees? What would be fair-good value that worked?
 
Why dont package him with a few prospects for Stanton. Acuna he can work the center field and we still have Pache and Waters in a few years.
 
****ing move acuna to RF

Trade Markakis and eat almost all of That final year he should have never been given and take whatever trash someone offers to do such a thing

This isn't a hard problem to solve
 
Um, Acuna would not be good in CF. He has graded out as average or below defensively in the upper minors.

Trading Ender made some sense when Mallex was still in the organization. Not any more.

KLaw is getting worse and worse as time goes on. He is trying to understand surplus value, but can't quite grasp it yet.
 
Enscheff said:
Um, Acuna would not be good in CF. He has graded out as average or below defensively in the upper minors.

Trading Ender made some sense when Mallex was still in the organization. Not any more.

KLaw is getting worse and worse as time goes on. He is trying to understand surplus value, but can't quite grasp it yet.
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Yeah, it hurts Ender's value, not Acuna's.
 
Acuna in right field just fits. Speed, rocket throwing arm. I am picturing Clemente.j [video]https://youtu.be/0UUy65ZpSP0?t=4[/video]
 
Inciarte, Albies, soroka/allard, and Newcomb for a front line starter. I don't like it, but as The Weeknd sings, "I feel it coming"
 
Enscheff said:
Um, Acuna would not be good in CF. He has graded out as average or below defensively in the upper minors.

Trading Ender made some sense when Mallex was still in the organization. Not any more.

KLaw is getting worse and worse as time goes on. He is trying to understand surplus value, but can't quite grasp it yet.
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Remember that he was a failed FO guy as well.

But even if Acuna projected to be above-average defensively in CF, I don't like the idea of trading Inciarte simply to maximize value. I get the argument, but this is where it breaks down to me. The goal is to build a team, and even if Acuna is good enough to play CF, it still works better IMO to have him play RF than to give away an answer in the OF on the hope of finding other answers in the trade when you would still leave two gaping holes in the OF.

It's the same reason I was against trading Albies because of the idea that he had better value on the trade market as a SS than he did to us as a 2B.
 
thewupk said:
I still fail how to understand how plus defense in a corner is 'wasting' it.
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Also this. Heyward has proven that you can provide just as much value as a beast defensively in RF as you can in CF. I don't see it lowering Acuna's value at all to have him in a corner, and that's obviously even more true if Acuna isn't that great in CF.
 
smootness said:
Also this. Heyward has proven that you can provide just as much value as a beast defensively in RF as you can in CF. I don't see it lowering Acuna's value at all to have him in a corner, and that's obviously even more true if Acuna isn't that great in CF.
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Probably there is a significant "loss of value" if you have three gold glove caliber center fielders in your outfield. But the loss is quite small with two, especially if the third outfielder has poor range and the other two have to cover more ground to compensate.
 
nsacpi said:
Probably there is a significant "loss of value" if you have three gold glove caliber center fielders in your outfield. But the loss is quite small with two, especially if the third outfielder has poor range and the other two have to cover more ground to compensate.
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I'd be curious to see that because that doesn't seem to make logical sense to me. I can see a slight loss in overall value, but I just don't think there are going to be many balls that two different OF would be potentially making a difficult play on.
 
Worst idea ever. Law gets worse every year. Let's trade a gold glove center fielder who's 2nd in hits in the NL who bats lead off and just signed a cheap extension..
 
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