Why Do Liberals Hate 'American Sniper'?

goldfly said:
not really a grammer nazi. just like to point out "your" and "you're" when it comes from someone saying someone else is stupid

again, not my friends.

some of the same said that we shouldn't have been cheering and rallying when we killed Osama (i agree with them on that)
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*Grammar

And why are we talking about Osama bin Laden now?

Are you trying to prove that your non-friends are socio-politically aware by exampling a random event that happened almost five years ago?
 
Hawk said:
*Grammar

And why are we talking about Osama bin Laden now?

Are you trying to prove that your non-friends are socio-politically aware by exampling a random event that happened almost five years ago?
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yep, that's how you spell it. i ****ed it up and i am not blaming it on autocorrect

i mentioned bin laden. not sure if we are talking about him

sure
 
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goldfly said:
no, it was to show that the same people had a similar opinion on someone that was a terrible person

but you know better i guess
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Okay, but that wasn't what I was getting at.

It was the absurd statement that they had 'fallen far from God.'

But it's like
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at this point.
 
ok

btw, totally off topic, had a teacher when i was a senior in high school tell me that still born babies go to hell cause they were born with sin and didn't repent. he taught bible class at our school
 
Garmel said:
A lot of difference between modern liberals and the liberals of yesteryear. I just can't see a modern liberal president giving the orders to destroy two major cities with atomic weapons.
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It depends on what you call modern and liberal. LBJ went in big in Vietnam and if Joe Lieberman were ever in charge, he'd likely carpet bomb most of the Mideast. I agree there aren't a lot of Scoop Jackson's around these days, but the nature of war has changed dramatically over the past few decades.

I can't think of any President--Republican or Democrat--that would use atomic weapons now. The US had a monopoly on atomic weapons in 1945 and having that monopoly have them a lot of strategic space within which they could make a decision. If there had been an enemy power that could retaliate in kind, my guess is those bombs would have never been dropped.

If Al Gore had been in the Big Chair on 9/11, my guess is his reaction would have been similar to W's.
 
goldfly said:
whatever you say ace

however you want to change the word liberal
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LOL, it's not whatever I say, it's just a fact.

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"Classical liberalism" is the term used to designate the ideology advocating private property, an unhampered market economy, the rule of law, constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion and of the press, and international peace based on free trade. Up until around 1900, this ideology was generally known simply as liberalism. The qualifying "classical" is now usually necessary, in English-speaking countries at least (but not, for instance, in France), because liberalism has come to be associated with wide-ranging interferences with private property and the market on behalf of egalitarian goals. This version of liberalism — if such it can still be called — is sometimes designated as "social," or (erroneously) "modern" or the "new," liberalism. Here we shall use liberalism to signify the classical variety.
 
thank you for proving my point and makes me question why we went down this road that started here

acesfull86 said:
Depends on what definition of "liberal" you're using.
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after i said this:

well, since the western world is liberal (since the ideas that created it were a radical liberal idea) and we rule the world
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Garmel said:
A lot of difference between modern liberals and the liberals of yesteryear. I just can't see a modern liberal president giving the orders to destroy two major cities with atomic weapons.
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When Truman gave the go-ahead to drop the bombs, America was the only nation to have them. Moreover, no one knew the horrible and disastrous effects of dropping them. Today's world is a completely different paradigm.

Even McCain would mull over it a couple of seconds before nuking another country.
 
Gary82 said:
When Truman gave the go-ahead to drop the bombs, America was the only nation to have them. Moreover, no one knew the horrible and disastrous effects of dropping them. Today's world is a completely different paradigm.

Even McCain would mull over it a couple of seconds before nuking another country.
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But only a couple of seconds. He'd be all "Get off America's lawn!"
 
The atomic bomb was the right choice then and it would be now.

The invasion force for Japan would be a lot bigger than the one on DDay and Japan was a lot more fortified. Estimates show that America would had lost at least 100,000 troops when they went into Japan.

So lose 100,000 of your own soldiers or drop 2 bombs?

Even In that scenario today, you do it 100% of the time.
 
goldfly said:
ok

btw, totally off topic, had a teacher when i was a senior in high school tell me that still born babies go to hell cause they were born with sin and didn't repent. he taught bible class at our school
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WHOA, he said what?
 
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