Why isn't there an international draft?
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bravesfanMatt
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Money money money. Amateurs don’t want them in their draft so it doesn’t water them down and the handlers don’t want to change the system because they make money off shopping those kids. Teams like it because they can set up relationships and just reap the rewards.
Another weak stance by baseball. No real leadership to actually grow the sport by making competition the main focus.
I’ve always thought the drafts are illegal and should be challenged. In any other job, you have a right to go work where you want, under what provisions you agree too. Sports shouldn’t be any different. A talented college athlete should be able to play for whatever team he wants to and whatever deal he accepts. Every other occupation is like that.
msstate7
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Sue them saying it's not fair that an international player can do it .
they are taking our jobs
msstate7
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Make baseball great again
Because it would require the MLBPA and Owners to agree to it. The Owners see a draft as a negative for them, while the MLBPA doesn't care about it either way because it deals with players currently outside the union. Therefore, the MLBPA will not give up concessions to get a draft, and the Owners don't want a draft. So nothing gets implemented.
I thought the owners actually pushed for a draft during the last CBA negotiations and offered to get rid of the qualifying offer? The MLBPA turned the draft down, and the QO stayed.
Yup, you're right. Looks like the actual answer is:
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Any other industry could theoretically have a draft. It's not illegal. But no one would enter their name to be drafted by Walmart or Amazon.
Sports teams have 3 things of intrinsic value:
1. the right to control professional workers in their field
2. the right to schedule content with other groups in their field
3. the right to charge for the consumption of the resultant product
So I guess it makes sense the Owners would want to expand draft control internationally.
1. the right to control professional workers in their field
2. the right to schedule content with other groups in their field
3. the right to charge for the consumption of the resultant product
So I guess it makes sense the Owners would want to expand draft control internationally.
Southcack77
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Drafts would be an illegal restraint on trade in pretty much every other situation.
But sports unions are the rare case where there is an entirely unionized workforce that has a willingness to agree to something like a draft.
The collective bargaining is the only thing that makes it legal.
Well, I think the fact that MLB has an Antitrust exemption plays into it as well.
Southcack77
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Not sure that it does really. The drafts in other leagues have survived.
Tapate50
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#5 Diego Tornes, OF, Cuba
Tornes is the fifth-ranked prospect in this year’s international class, according to Baseball America. He’s just 16 years old yet stands 6-foot-4 and 200 pounds, displaying power from both sides of the plate.
“Tornes is one of the younger players in the 2025 international class but has long stood out for his power,” Ben Badler writes for Baseball America. “He’s a tall, physical switch-hitter with big bat speed from both sides of the plate who is able to drive the ball consistently for impact and projects to have plus power. Tornes’ swing can cut in and out of the hitting zone too quickly at times, but he’s not a feast-or-famine hitter because it’s an accurate swing, and he’s able to pick up spin early with a knack for being on time.”
#19 Raudy Reyes, RHP, Dominican Republic
Reyes is another 16-year-old prospect with the frame of a full ground man, standing 6-foot-4 and 220 pounds. Badler projects he’ll garner a seven-figure contract from the Braves, who have to be intrigued by his incredible power on the mound, capable of hitting triple digits already.
“It’s jarring velocity for his age with a fastball that has reached 101 mph from his strong, physically mature frame (6-foot-4, 220 pounds) with a thick lower half. It’s an overpowering fastball against hitters his age, though he will need to show more feel to manipulate his offspeed stuff and land his fastball in the strike zone more often against more advanced hitters.”
#96 Angel Carmona, SS, Venezuela
If there’s a weak spot in the Braves organization now and in the future, it’s at shortstop. Of course, all of these players are extremely young and difficult to project, but it’s a position that needs to be heavily addressed at all levels of the minors in hope of finding long-term answers.
“Carmona is an athletic shortstop with a strong arm who should stick in the middle infield. He’s a righthanded hitter with a high-waist build and significant room to fill out his 6-foot-1 frame. It’s an aggressive offensive approach with a chance to grow into 15-20 home run power once he packs on more size and strength.”
Tornes is the fifth-ranked prospect in this year’s international class, according to Baseball America. He’s just 16 years old yet stands 6-foot-4 and 200 pounds, displaying power from both sides of the plate.
“Tornes is one of the younger players in the 2025 international class but has long stood out for his power,” Ben Badler writes for Baseball America. “He’s a tall, physical switch-hitter with big bat speed from both sides of the plate who is able to drive the ball consistently for impact and projects to have plus power. Tornes’ swing can cut in and out of the hitting zone too quickly at times, but he’s not a feast-or-famine hitter because it’s an accurate swing, and he’s able to pick up spin early with a knack for being on time.”
#19 Raudy Reyes, RHP, Dominican Republic
Reyes is another 16-year-old prospect with the frame of a full ground man, standing 6-foot-4 and 220 pounds. Badler projects he’ll garner a seven-figure contract from the Braves, who have to be intrigued by his incredible power on the mound, capable of hitting triple digits already.
“It’s jarring velocity for his age with a fastball that has reached 101 mph from his strong, physically mature frame (6-foot-4, 220 pounds) with a thick lower half. It’s an overpowering fastball against hitters his age, though he will need to show more feel to manipulate his offspeed stuff and land his fastball in the strike zone more often against more advanced hitters.”
#96 Angel Carmona, SS, Venezuela
If there’s a weak spot in the Braves organization now and in the future, it’s at shortstop. Of course, all of these players are extremely young and difficult to project, but it’s a position that needs to be heavily addressed at all levels of the minors in hope of finding long-term answers.
“Carmona is an athletic shortstop with a strong arm who should stick in the middle infield. He’s a righthanded hitter with a high-waist build and significant room to fill out his 6-foot-1 frame. It’s an aggressive offensive approach with a chance to grow into 15-20 home run power once he packs on more size and strength.”
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
6-4 220 at 16 I think he went to the Soto school of birth certs..
UNCBlue012
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Cuban outfielder Diego Tornes (16) has officially signed with the Atlanta Braves.