Why McCann to Braves makes little sense
- Thread starter bobbycoxy
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Agree with this. Yes, Folty and Ender is a huge overpay that will never happen. $17M per year is a huge overpay that will never happen.
Now, if it could be worked out for a lot less return and a lot less money, is it still a horrible idea? There are some good reasons that he would be a fit in Atlanta in that case.
The article should have said... At the Yankees asking price and full contract value it is a horrible idea, and we would all likely agree.
Southcack77
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Don't really see how the salary matters for the Braves.
Whether it's a good move or a bad one, they can afford the contract. I can think of worse moves if they don't have to give up prospects.
Whether it's a good move or a bad one, they can afford the contract. I can think of worse moves if they don't have to give up prospects.
This guy basically doesn't know anything. At all.
He says Wieters is a better option than Mac. Wieters is hitting worse than Mac, is much worse defensively, and is a disaster as far as framing runs are concerned. There is no area of the game where Wieters is better than Mac. This writer doesn't understand player value at all.
He talks about Lucroy because of his player option. Lucroy doesn't have a player option. There is no way Lucroy will be a FA this offseason. This writer is an idiot.
Ramos has a career OPS of .744, even with his excellent 2016. Mac's "terrible" year this year is a .740 OPS. Mac is also a much better pitch framer. Further, Ramos will almost certainly be signed to a contract that locks him up well into his decline...which is why the writer says to avoid Mac. Again, this writer is clueless.
The only thing the writer got correct was that the Braves should not trade Folty plus Inciarte for Mac. This is quite possibly one of the most ignorant articles I have ever read from a supposed baseball writer.
If the Braves get Mac on what amounts to a 3/40 contract (assuming his option vests) for a decent, but not elite, pitching prospect, it is exactly the type of move I can see them making this offseason.
He says Wieters is a better option than Mac. Wieters is hitting worse than Mac, is much worse defensively, and is a disaster as far as framing runs are concerned. There is no area of the game where Wieters is better than Mac. This writer doesn't understand player value at all.
He talks about Lucroy because of his player option. Lucroy doesn't have a player option. There is no way Lucroy will be a FA this offseason. This writer is an idiot.
Ramos has a career OPS of .744, even with his excellent 2016. Mac's "terrible" year this year is a .740 OPS. Mac is also a much better pitch framer. Further, Ramos will almost certainly be signed to a contract that locks him up well into his decline...which is why the writer says to avoid Mac. Again, this writer is clueless.
The only thing the writer got correct was that the Braves should not trade Folty plus Inciarte for Mac. This is quite possibly one of the most ignorant articles I have ever read from a supposed baseball writer.
If the Braves get Mac on what amounts to a 3/40 contract (assuming his option vests) for a decent, but not elite, pitching prospect, it is exactly the type of move I can see them making this offseason.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
The logic is sound, but what if Wieters, Ramos, and Lucroy all end up somewhere other than Atlanta?
Well considering Lucroy is under control with a cheap team option, he is already going to be somewhere else.
The author is shockingly ignorant about baseball.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
Light hitting catcher? I haven't looked up the numbers, but I'm pretty sure his 16 homeruns and .400+ SLG would make him one of the more powerful hitters among catchers.
And he brings a lot more to the table than just offense, even at this stage in his career.
Chipper
Spring Training Invitee
How much of that is a result of playing in NY? Still don't want him back. He'll be another one we'll be complaining about constantly and trying to get rid of in a couple years.
msstate7
Well-known member
His .403 slugging would place him 3rd on our team in catchers' slugging...
Recker -- .443
Flowers -- .431
I recogonize McCann has more ABs than both combined, but it wouldn't be a good thread without me inserting some SSSs haha
423 slg on the road compared to 385 at home. 9 homers on the road and 7 at home.
Still the only reason to go after Mac is to have a name for Braves fans to come out and see at the new stadium. He's no longer a good player the Yankees would need to eat a lot of salary and the Bravse would have to not give up anything significant in return to make it a worthwhile deal. Again this move would only be for PR reasons and not actually improving the team.
Not much at all considering his numbers away from NY are better than his numbers at home this year.
How many catchers have an OPS over .700 and hit 20+ homers?
He's still no doubt one of the top 10 catchers in baseball right now, without question. If you get the Yanks to kick in about 10 million of his remaining salary then he's a good value for us.
He's a 1.1 WAR catcher this year with a 100 WRC+. Yeah if the Yanks kick in 10 million a year and we give up nothing of significance then I would do it. But I don't see the Yankees just giving him away if he's a top 10 catcher who is now a backup for them.
1.1 with only 103 games played (only 80 of them started at catcher). He would be higher with more games started (assuming the same rate stats).
Assuming he can start everyday now. Can't DH in the NL. Fact is he's been a meh hitter since joining the Yankees. Good for a catcher but not good overall. Would need massive salary to make it worth on for a performance sense. PR sense it would put some butts in seats regardless.