Williams Perez

jsebe10 said:
I think you unload him...while his value is still high...Unload that @ss and net something significant in return...if not, fck it and keep him
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Yeah, look at how much Maybin's value has cratered over the past two games. Don't want to risk that with Baby Harang.
 
nsacpi said:
Walk rate needs to come down. He's had to pitch behind in the count a bit too much. But I've been a fan for a while. Love all those DPs he generates with the sinker.
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If his walk rate comes down he would have borderline elite numbers. With his sinker and our infield defense he can get away with walking more guys than normal.
 
Bill reported that the Braves really liked what they've seen out of Perez for many years so this is not a surprise to the organization. Any good starter that is pre arby is worth a lot. Perez is a HUGE piece moving forward.
 
Its so difficult to predict heavy groundball pitchers performance. He's been lucky, but hard to determine to what degree but it's been awfully encouraging.
 
Tim Hudson is my comparison for Williams Perez. Obviously not identical, but they shays some of the same pitching ideas. Big difference is one is large while the other isn't. Not saying he's going to be turn into a Tim Hudson on the mound, but I see similarities in their games.

And why are we trading him away? Julio, Shelby, and Wood isn't the greatest top 3, but it's good enough. Williams Perez is cheap and is fine as backend starter. Dump Minor for whatever you can next season if his contract isn't up? We aren't getting a better option as a 4 or 5 than Perez right now.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Tim Hudson is my comparison for Williams Perez. Obviously not identical, but they shays some of the same pitching ideas. Big difference is one is large while the other isn't. Not saying he's going to be turn into a Tim Hudson on the mound, but I see similarities in their games.

And why are we trading him away? Julio, Shelby, and Wood isn't the greatest top 3, but it's good enough. Williams Perez is cheap and is fine as backend starter. Dump Minor for whatever you can next season if his contract isn't up? We aren't getting a better option as a 4 or 5 than Perez right now.
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I agree, no reason to trade him and we likely wouldn't get a return at this moment that is worth it for us.
 
If someone offers something we can't refuse, that's a reason to trade. Otherwise, he's a really good backend starter.
 
thethe said:
Bill reported that the Braves really liked what they've seen out of Perez for many years so this is not a surprise to the organization. Any good starter that is pre arby is worth a lot. Perez is a HUGE piece moving forward.
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Massive really
 
Perez is only 24.

Any player is technically tradeable minus Trout, Harper, Kershaw, etc.

But i dont think we'd get a ton in return so i'd keep him especially with the troubles of Folty and Julio. Wood somewhat as well.

If he can cut down on his walks, he can be a really nice backend starter.
 
Can't bare to keep watching Perez pitch. I don't even think he's bullpen material with all the runners he puts (allows) on-base
 
thethe said:
Bill reported that the Braves really liked what they've seen out of Perez for many years so this is not a surprise to the organization. Any good starter that is pre arby is worth a lot. Perez is a HUGE piece moving forward.
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This **** never gets old.

We need an emoticon with Shanks opining.
 
I dont understand what happened to him. Sub 3.00 ERA before injury, 10+ ERA post injury. If he never got injured and was doing this bad I would say his luck just ran out but that injury in between makes me suspicious. Maybe his magic just ran out and the injuries timing is a coincidence.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I dont understand what happened to him. Sub 3.00 ERA before injury, 10+ ERA post injury. If he never got injured and was doing this bad I would say his luck just ran out but that injury in between makes me suspicious. Maybe his magic just ran out and the injuries timing is a coincidence.
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Chucky Thomas?
 
cajunrevenge said:
I dont understand what happened to him. Sub 3.00 ERA before injury, 10+ ERA post injury. If he never got injured and was doing this bad I would say his luck just ran out but that injury in between makes me suspicious. Maybe his magic just ran out and the injuries timing is a coincidence.
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There was no difference in his stuff, what happened was he couldn't (neither could any pitcher) sustain the 86% strand rate. Put way too many guys on base and was bound to get hit more times than not.
 
I understand that, but it just seems weird that his magic running out coincided with him getting injured. Even with his luck he was still around 4.50 fip before the injury I believe.
 
Williams Perez has been really good over his last 4-5 starts and I think one of the reasons is him getting ahead in counts. He was struggling when falling behind 2-0, 3-0 and in turn having to grove pitches or walking guys. Still don't think he's a MLB starter but he could be a nice depth piece.
 
blueagleace1 said:
Williams Perez has been really good over his last 4-5 starts and I think one of the reasons is him getting ahead in counts. He was struggling when falling behind 2-0, 3-0 and in turn having to grove pitches or walking guys. Still don't think he's a MLB starter but he could be a nice depth piece.
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I rate him behind Wisler, but ahead of Banuelos, Folty, Jenkins.

He has a chance to develop into a solid ML starter.
 
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