That's a terrible idea. Nothing Beachy went through this year was new for a pitcher coming back from TJ. Not every pitcher comes back at 12 months. It's normally a 12-18 month window. He will be at full strength next year and he's our best pitcher when healthy. Before he went down he was pitching like a legitimate ace and thats a big need of ours.
Wren Interested in Bringing Hudson Back
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That's a terrible idea. Nothing Beachy went through this year was new for a pitcher coming back from TJ. Not every pitcher comes back at 12 months. It's normally a 12-18 month window. He will be at full strength next year and he's our best pitcher when healthy. Before he went down he was pitching like a legitimate ace and thats a big need of ours.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
They put Medlen in the bullpen and that worked nicely. I am well aware of his potential; he was my favorite starter on the team. But there is something to be said about taking it easy on someone with his recent history.
cajunrevenge
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I agree with putting Beachy in the pen. If he starts in the rotation then your looking at a similar situation as to what the Nats had with Strasburg. Its not an exact science but most people will agree its not good for the arm to go from 70 innings to 200 innings. And that 70 innings is giving him credit for 40 minor league innings which most people wouldnt because ML innings are seen as more stressful on the arm. We can be certain that there will be injuries to the pitching staff so Beachy will get his chance to be in the rotation. If he pitches well then I would much rather have him in October than April. I would make it a competition in camp between Wood and Beachy. Beachy would only win if Wood was really bad though.
Agreed with everything until the end. Beachy needs to show that he can perform at high level and do it over the course of a full season. Hope he does, but let's not forget about expectations for Jair Jurrjens.
bravesnumberone
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Depth is a very good thing. I still think he would have helped us immensely in the NLDS. I would bring him back cheap, though.
tvsportscaster
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
DOB or Bowman one of the two also tweeted out later, that Wren knows they need a number one type starter and that would be one of the things they're looking for.
Just don't sign anyone for more than three years at a time. No more Uggla/BJ contracts.
First, I couldn't give two ****s if I'm on your ignore list, so that's a pretty meaningless threat.
Second, lumping a bunch of fringe prospects together isn't going to get Price to Atlanta. Tampa got Myers, the best hitting prospect in the game, for Shields, and you think a package headlined by guys that aren't even Top 100 prospects is going to get Price?
You know what, go ahead and put me on your ignore list now. If "Terdo/Hale/Plus for Price" qualifies as a good idea in your book, I have a feeling I won't ever have anything pleasant to write about your posts anyways.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Amen!
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
I don't get that either. When healthy Beachy is an ace. No way you give up on him yet. Gotta have that arm in the rotation. Hale is a perfect long man and Wood is as well, but for different reasons. That right there is 7 starters ready to go for you on day one. Plus you've got Graham and maybe Gilmartin ready by then as well.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
I will count on Beachy.
Perfect Cell
Lynchburg Prospect
glad the braves want huddy back
One of the reasons for stopping posting here was because of obnoxious pricks like you. I was invited to return, but not put up with this kind of bull. If it's not addressed, it's not worth coming back.
That trade of last winter was borne of desperation by Dayton Moore to try and position the Royals into a playoff berth, if not at least show improvement. He and Ned Yost are not in the most secure jobs. The Rays probably could not believe their good fortune. You don't see the Ray posturing with "well, that's the benchmark." Not good form.
If we had one, it would've already been done.
First you didn't read it correctly. That might be a good cue to just zip it, instead of using it as an excuse to escalate the flame war.
Anyway, if not TB, somebody else will be interested interested in them. They're assets and more than "fringe prospects." Highly doubtful that you've seen them play (other than TV this year, after call-ups) or followed their progress (well, maybe Bleacher Report). So, it's no suprise that you'd draw that conclusion. Since you think that you're so in tune with what TB might want, they hypothetically could want A level pitcher with star potential, 1 starter for current rotation, 1 IF/OF and a pick from a group of prospects. That's a pretty decent package. GM's have vague, exploratory conversations all the time. Some deals clearly take months, some even years to complete. It's not like your fantasy league team. Hard to comprehend. A 20 year old kid, lack social skills but with an internet connection can be a dangerous thing.
Before you come back at me with more hot air, look at what the Rangers offered for BJ Upton. 2 guys, who were only signed through the end of the year and one who was average for somebody signed through 2015 and has gotten MVP consideration. Real GM's don't drop their drawers on the first pass. The best GM's recognize opportunity and sometimes fleece their counterparts, hard as it is to believe. For all the negativity that John Schuerholz received at Scout, the man deserves major kudos for many of the trades he made. Find out about what he gave up to acquire Fred McGriff and Marquis Grissom. Fires sales, yes, but extreme examples to stress the point.
Sorry to everybody else reading, because the original off-hand thought wasn't meant to be start controversy. Carry on.
Then you aren't going to be getting any true aces. Not that they are available anyways. The only thing you can hope for is to develop your own and sign them to a cheapish contract.
Everyone wants a true ace but they don't guarantee anything. Price got lit up in the ALDS. Dodgers lost both games started by Greinke and Kershaw in the ALCS so far. If you have the money then great but the Braves can't afford to sign an ace in free agency and likely can't afford what it would take to get anyone via trade without hurting the team overall. So either develop your own or try and trade for someone that you think is going to break out. Otherwise it aint happening.
That said bringing back Hudson and letting the young guys develop another year is a solid plan. Our pitching is good but young and inexperienced for the most part. It showed in the playoffs. Having Hudson back would help that imo. The team, as is, is good enough to win it all. Unless something falls into your lap then just let it be.
Runnin
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You need at least 7 starters. A true #1 would still be nice.
Medlen
Minor
Teheran
Hudson
Beachy
Wood
Hale