Yankees Interested in Peraza

How about Peraza/Minor for Severino/Judge/Mateo/Refsnyder. MAy have to include a low level guy to get it done there. Yankees probably wouldn't do this. But I'm not moving Peraza without Severino plus something else in a deal that's an easy win for us.

There are question marks around Judge, but we Severino would be the centerpiece, and we don't have a high impact power OF bat that's close in the minors.

Refsnyder gives another 2B option if Jace doesn't work out.

Jorge Mateo and Ozhaino Albies would give two great long term options at SS/2B.

Long term:

C-Bethancourt

1B-Freeman

2B-Jace/Refsnyder

SS-Simmons

3B-Ruiz

RF-Judge

CF-Mallex

LF-?? FA sign?

Rotation would be filthy long term:

Teheran

Shelby

Wood

Wisler

Severino

CL: Folty
 
And Judge also isn't that close and may never be a true 'high impact' bat. I would not trade Peraza for much right now. There's just no point. Severino would be awesome, but we don't need to be gathering more pitching at the expense of our top positional prospect right now. It would just be dumb.

If anything, if we really like Judge (I obviously don't), then trade some of our pitching for him, not a deal including Peraza.

Getting rid of Peraza would suddenly make Peterson a must to stick because the next guy in the system is Albies, who is several years away. The front office is not going to do that.
 
Tell us how you really feel?

But seriously, you have brought up many solid points. Thanks for your input.
 
mfree80 said:
Huge guys are not usually as athletic as Stanton. That is extremely rare. Judge is even bigger. Being big is great, but being big does not make him Stanton like.

That being said, he does sound promising, and I would be okay with him as a centerpiece of the deal.
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Reports say Judge is pretty athletic
 
smootness said:
Trading a guy with a lot of talent, who offers value in several areas and fills a big need, who is almost ready...for a guy who is older yet much further away, with serious flaws? Why in the world would we make that deal?

We don't have to trade Peraza just because they're interested, so don't do it. Judge hit 18 HRs his entire college career and then hit 17 in A and A+ as a 22-year-old. He doesn't have anywhere close to the power of Stanton. He's a guy with good plate discipline and decent power who is almost certainly destined to become a slow, laboring base runner and fielder. He's best for a team with a DH option.

Honestly, there's a pretty good chance Davidson is at least as good as Judge at 23. They're similar in what they potentially offer.

Judge is a decent prospect who is probably never going to be more than a decent regular. Peraza offers great defense and great speed and the potential of a great bat (obviously without much power). No, thanks.
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Peraza is ranked as the 54 prospect in MLB... Judge 53... if Judge is just a decent prospect, so is Peraza. That being said, I hate trading Peraza when he's close unless the Yankees offer more high upside plays.

In your first post, you said he was a very good prospect... then you downgraded him to decent. What happened to change your opinion so much in a couple of hours?
 
Judge is certainly athletic for his size...it's just that he's 6'7" 275 as a 22-year-old. Probably going to get bigger. And 'for his size' means he's still a below-average runner right now and about an average fielder with a decent arm, and likely to get worse pretty soon.

Stanton is an elite athlete for a guy his size and his size still hampers him to where he's not a great runner and is only decent in the field. And Stanton is nowhere near as big as Judge.
 
zbhargrove said:
Peraza is ranked as the 54 prospect in MLB... Judge 53... if Judge is just a decent prospect, so is Peraza. That being said, I hate trading Peraza when he's close unless the Yankees offer more high upside plays.
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Peraza is also 21, and guys without power are always ranked much lower as prospects. The thing is, his speed and defense also make him more of a sure thing.

And this may be obvious from my responses here, but I think 53 is too high for Judge. The guy is 23 and is still considered a pretty big project.
 
smootness said:
And Judge also isn't that close and may never be a true 'high impact' bat. I would not trade Peraza for much right now. There's just no point. Severino would be awesome, but we don't need to be gathering more pitching at the expense of our top positional prospect right now. It would just be dumb.

If anything, if we really like Judge (I obviously don't), then trade some of our pitching for him, not a deal including Peraza.

Getting rid of Peraza would suddenly make Peterson a must to stick because the next guy in the system is Albies, who is several years away. The front office is not going to do that.
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Wow... Judge went from a very good prospect to not much from you in just a few posts...
 
He's a pretty good prospect, in the same way guys like Rio Ruiz and Braxton Davidson are pretty good prospects. In other words, not the 53rd best prospect in baseball.
 
Law has Judge 23 and Peraza 24.

Fangraphs has Peraza 44th, Judge 58th

Basically everyone has them pretty close. The difference is we have a lot of young MI depth and not much OF
 
Gotta agree with DOB and his "for now" on the surface. That said, IF they're believers in Peterson (and Albies' potential to move up the ladder pretty quickly) and Ruiz, I could see Severino as the centerpiece. If we do indeed have them over a barrel enough (and the Yankees have soured enough on him), I'd push the envelope and tell them that Severino wouldn't get it done but Severino AND Sanchez just might.

Severino falls right in line with the effort to stockpile high upside, controllable arms. While Sanchez seems to have plateaued a bit he still has an intriguing bat - enough so that MLB Pipeline thinks it's enough to profile at 1B. Being traded could be the kind of change of scenery shock to get him to work on his defense behind the plate and if he were ultimately able to stick there, Bethancourt, Sanchez, and Briceno would give us really good depth in the system for the next few years. If he doesn't stick, he's much more athletic than Gattis and could potentially be moved to LF. BA's take is that the ceiling for his bat is .280 with 20-25 HRs as a Catcher, so if you moved him out from back there you'd potentially be getting Severino AND something similar to Judge for Jose.

If they'd take Minor I'd almost do it just to get rid of his salary this year - maybe even offer Peraza, Callaspo (as a stopgap until Jose's ready), and Minor for Severino, Sanchez, and Jacob Lindgren or Eric Jagielo. Lindgren's a future Closer candidate (in the not too distant future), or Jagielo could provide competition to drive Ruiz. That would more or less mean you got Lindgren or Jagielo for Callaspo, and I'd think just about everyone would be pretty happy with that.
 
Peraza would be premium position for them who is younger and more advanced. I'd think he actually is worth more than Judge at this point even though they are ranked pretty close. They do not have SS options that they like apparently and we can very much use Jose, so I'd have to be overwhelmed I guess...
 
Tapate50 said:
Peraza would be premium position for them who is younger and more advanced. I'd think he actually is worth more than Judge at this point even though they are ranked pretty close. They do not have SS options that they like apparently and we can very much use Jose, so I'd have to be overwhelmed I guess...
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Exactly. He's closer to the majors, lower floor, younger, more premium position.
 
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