Yet Another Mass Shooting

[goldfly]

Touché

Was more commenting on my own words of the discussion

Not the title Simone made up to go with the video I posted.

But touché.

If you wanted to tie an organization to gun violence I would tie them to it since their lobbying is why nothing gets done on the issue for the most part though

 

[goldfly]

"My thoughts are prayers are with the families," of the victims, Arizona Senator John McCain (R) said in a statement provided to ABC 15.++

How's about your ****ing vote !

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/northern-arizona-university-shooting_56179244e4b0082030a1f581

shocked to see prayer didn't stop this from happening

Surely it will stop the next one from happening

Or the other 90 people that will die from guns today

 

[BedellBrave]

Are you for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment?

 

[sturg33]

The Associated Press ‏@AP 16m16 minutes ago
BREAKING: School: Texas Southern University on lockdown, gunman sought after 2 shot at student housing.

 

[goldfly]

Are you for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment?

i wouldn't take it off the table

i am down to amend any amendment if needed or outdated etc

 

[goldfly]

The Associated Press ‏@AP 16m16 minutes ago
BREAKING: School: Texas Southern University on lockdown, gunman sought after 2 shot at student housing.

i guess more prayer is needed

we will stop the next one

 

[bravesnumberone]

So that's two school shootings in one day.

 

[sturg33]

i guess more prayer is needed

we will stop the next one

Instead, I think bitching about the NRA will be more appropriate in stopping these shootings.

 

[57Brave]

$urprised you don't understand the role of the 21st century NRA.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000082

 

[mossy]

A few pics from the POTUS visit to my home town in Oregon...







Tough to get good shots on a cell from a few hundred feet away. Was quite an experience to witness.

 

[goldfly]

Instead, I think bitching about the NRA will be more appropriate in stopping these shootings.

Well, if could not do what that group wants to do

Which is to do nothing at all

Then we would maybe actually accomplish some things in this country

But hey, who wants to actually do anything in this country to stop horrible things from happening?

 

[goldfly]

So that's two school shootings in one day.

Yep

But I'm sure if we do nothing

And just pray

It will stop the next one

 

[goldfly]

Very cool

I have a friend who has been flying marine 1 for a few years now.

A few pics from the POTUS visit to my home town in Oregon...







Tough to get good shots on a cell from a few hundred feet away. Was quite an experience to witness.

 

[Runnin]

So the 'top gun' flies to the rescue in a giant gun container to stand surrounded by protectors with guns to deliver a speech promoting more gun control. Makes sense, I guess.

 

[BedellBrave]

i guess more prayer is needed

we will stop the next one

I'm thinking most of the time folks have mentioned prayer, they have been speaking of praying for those who grieve or those who have been injured. I also suspect that most who do pray aren't saying that's all that should be done. To pray is not to abdicate personal responsibility. For instance, just because I pray for someone's healing, doesn't mean that I do not think that God may answer such prayers thru the instrumentality of doctors and nurses and medicine and kind conversations with family and friends, etc. You see most who pray believe in first, secondary and tertiary causes. Your continued jabs only confirm mine and others (I suspect) opinions about you. Grow up gold.

 

[goldfly]

I'm thinking most of the time folks have mentioned prayer, they have been speaking of praying for those who grieve or those who have been injured. I also suspect that most who do pray aren't saying that's all that should be done. To pray is not to abdicate personal responsibility. For instance, just because I pray for someone's healing, doesn't mean that I do not think that God may answer such prayers thru the instrumentality of doctors and nurses and medicine and kind conversations with family and friends, etc. You see most who pray believe in first, secondary and tertiary causes. Your continued jabs only confirm mine and others (I suspect) opinions about you. Grow up gold.

i know a lot that don't think that way but i am glad you aren't one.

my Mom teaches special needs and is very religious. she has told me about churches who have prayer circles or want to come to her kids houses and pray that their autism or mental retardation etc be cured by prayer.

She was actually very upset with those groups and how she felt they were treating the families by doing such a thing, the child by not fully embracing them and giving false "hope" (for lack of a better word) that it can be "cured" instead of working with the child to get them to learn the most they can and try to be as "normal" as you can in society etc

i can't grow up Bedell, I'm a toys r us kid

 

[goldfly]

So the 'top gun' flies to the rescue in a giant gun container to stand surrounded by protectors with guns to deliver a speech promoting more gun control. Makes sense, I guess.

it is a fun line to say

just like when the pope old mobile drove around in bullet proof glass popemobile "nothing shouts faith in God like driving around in bulletproof glass"

 

[57Brave]

 

[mossy]

 

[BedellBrave]

'...4) Concealed Carriers Don’t Prevent Mass Shootings

“Do armed civilians stop mass shooters?” the liberal magazine Mother Jones asked in 2012. “Actually, no.”

Mother Jones justified its assertion by citing its own analysis that of the 62 mass shootings between 1982 and 2012, not one was stopped by a civilian with a gun. Shocking, right? Not really, once you consider the logical fallacy underlying the Mother Jones claim.

The fact of the matter is that shootings that happen in an area where concealed carriers can immediately respond don’t generally become mass shootings. It’s a bit like saying locked doors and alarms don’t prevent burglaries by only citing burglaries that happened in buildings with no locked doors or alarms as proof of your thesis. It’s no coincidence that so many mass shootings happen in areas declared to be “gun-free zones” by authorities.

Instances of concealed carriers stopping shooters in their tracks are too numerous to count. Here are just a few examples found from a few seconds of Googling.

July 27, 2015:

A 62-year-old man with a gun in each hand fired at four people – including a 1-year-old boy – before a civilian with a concealed carry permit returned fire and wounded the shooter, cops told FOX19.
April 20, 2015:

Authorities say no charges will be filed against an Uber driver who shot and wounded a gunman who opened fire on a crowd of people in Logan Square over the weekend.

The driver had a concealed-carry permit and acted in the defense of himself and others, Assistant State’s Attorney Barry Quinn said in court Sunday.

A group of people had been walking in front of the driver around 11:50 p.m. Friday in the 2900 block of North Milwaukee Avenue when Everardo Custodio, 22, began firing into the crowd, Quinn said.

The driver pulled out a handgun and fired six shots at Custodio, hitting him several times, according to court records. Responding officers found Custodio lying on the ground, bleeding, Quinn said. No other injuries were reported.
September 22, 2015:

A 63-year-old autoworker with a concealed weapons license shot a gunman who was robbing a Warren, Michigan, bank, according to Fox 2 Detroit.
Concealed carriers can’t be expected to stop every shooting, just as police can’t be expected to prevent all crime. It is a fact, though, that concealed carriers regularly put an end to violent shootings...."