Zimmerman Trial

gilesfan said:
I wouldn't confront and beat someone up for following me.
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if a you were a teenager and a grown man were following you in a van and then got out to confront you, you wouldn't put your hands on him?
you can't say what you would do. you've never been a scared black kid being followed by a dumbass white guy. zimmerman started the whole thing. without his actions, his following, his getting out of the car, he isn't getting beat up and an innocent person isn't dead. and we wanna let him off?
 
everyone knows why zimmerman was following the kid, but just don't want to admit it. that's why fox new defends this piece of trash so hard. they know what he did was racist, applaud it, but want to pretend it wasn't. confronting someone for being black should not be tolerated in our country, yet it's about to be excused. it's embarrassing, really.
 
Martin had plenty of time to run away to his house. If he feared for his life or saw a gun, why did he circle back on Simmerman?
 
If there has been recent crime, and you see an unfamiliar teenager dressed a certain way in your neighborhood you're going to wonder what they're up to. We all profile. Profiles aren't just about race, but a variety of factors. They don't prove anything, but they influence the way we view situations. The question is was George Zimmerman attacked and did he directly provoke it and was it necessary to use force to defend himself.

Frankly I haven't seen anything that proves he wasn't defending himself. He was exercising bad judgment and may have been prejudiced in his profiling, but that isn't a crime. It's just an all around sad situation which has hit nerves with a lot of people. Hopefully no one else gets hurt as a result of public reaction to this case.
 
Coredor said:
If there has been recent crime, and you see an unfamiliar teenager dressed a certain way in your neighborhood you're going to wonder what they're up to. We all profile. Profiles aren't just about race, but a variety of factors. They don't prove anything, but they influence the way we view situations. The question is was George Zimmerman attacked and did he directly provoke it and was it necessary to use force to defend himself.

Frankly I haven't seen anything that proves he wasn't defending himself. He was exercising bad judgment and may have been prejudiced in his profiling, but that isn't a crime. It's just an all around sad situation which has hit nerves with a lot of people. Hopefully no one else gets hurt as a result of public reaction to this case.
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I believe he is not guilty of 2nd Degree murder or Manslaughter because he had to defend himself, but he is guilty of negligence and escalating it to the point of someone dying. Stupid all the way around. Joe Cop wannabe should have kept his behind in the car.
 
The one thing I do wonder about with Zimmerman is the gun. Sometimes I think that having a weapon might make someone overly brave. He probably would have been more concerned about his own safety if he hadn't had it and never would have been jumped to start with. I do wonder what people are doing sometimes, but I don't follow them. It's not because of their rights though. It's because if I'm worried about them, the last thing I want to do is follow them around at night.
 
Coredor said:
The one thing I do wonder about with Zimmerman is the gun. Sometimes I think that having a weapon might make someone overly brave. He probably would have been more concerned about his own safety if he hadn't had it and never would have been jumped to start with. I do wonder what people are doing sometimes, but I don't follow them. It's not because of their rights though. It's because if I'm worried about them, the last thing I want to do is follow them around at night.
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Great post.
 
On the 911 call Zimmerman couldn't initially describe Martin's skin color. He didn't follow Martin because he was black, he didn't even know his skin color. It's on the 911 call
 
Krgrecw said:
On the 911 call Zimmerman couldn't initially describe Martin's skin color. He didn't follow Martin because he was black, he didn't even know his skin color. It's on the 911 call
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Eh that's not the point.

I'm sure he narrowed it down in his mind to either being black or mexican.

Zimmerman's a bit more racist than we're being told.
 
BravesFanInSAV said:
Eh that's not the point.

I'm sure he narrowed it down in his mind to either being black or mexican.

Zimmerman's a bit more racist than we're being told.
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I agree but he did fire in self defense, which is allowable if TM was beating on him still, but I haven't followed the trial so I want to ask those who did, how far from GZ was TM when he was shot?
 
AerchAngel said:
I agree but he did fire in self defense, which is allowable if TM was beating on him still, but I haven't followed the trial so I want to ask those who did, how far from GZ was TM when he was shot?
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They were on the ground together. If you believe Zimmerman's expert Martin was on top of them, but in some way shape or form they were on the ground fighting.
 
I'll say it again since the vigilantes are still at work.
BedellBrave said:
Viable question? The only question. The problem is that so many got whipped up emotionally by the race baiters that they are now invested would-be vigilantes and really not that interested in whether or not Zimmerman has been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of 2nd degree murder or of manslaughter. They just want their piece of flesh.
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Just sayin'.
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Love the pic. Only difference is Chaz likely has more testosterone.

Zimmerman will likely be acquitted and there will be reaction. I don't know how violent it will be, but will probably pass quickly.

But someone mentioned the Casey Anthony trial and all the hoopla that surrounded that and all the press coverage. I think one of the real problems facing this country now is that in the 24/7 news cycle, our airwaves get filled up with the "fill in the blank" expert on both sides of a relatively minor court case and, as a result, the case hits the national scene. Don't get me wrong. This is tragic. A kid is dead and the guy who killed him has to live with the fact that if he had acted differently, the kid would still be alive. I just wish the world would quit looking at this like a Supreme Court case.
 
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