Are you talking about Trump or you personally?
Trump Indictment Watch
- Thread starter cajunrevenge
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Are you talking about Trump or you personally?
nsacpi
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Foreign born?
nsacpi
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Yes. Naturalized citizen.
What country are you from?
cajunrevenge
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As usual you intentionally distort what happened to try to make a point. The voters in any red state could do what voters in Colorado did and challenge the eligibility of Biden for any reason they want. It wouldn't go far but they could do it.
nsacpi
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sturg33
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Intentionally letting our country be invaded is grounds for a lawsuit regarding treason
But the GOP doesn't have that type of spine. They don't play dirty like the communists.
But glad to know you and nscapi would support a red court deciding to remove him from the ballot if they grew one
nsacpi
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I think Amash's point about process is valid. It wouldn't be a bad thing if the Supreme Court would return this case to a lower court to hold a speedy trial on the substantive matter of whether or not very poorly chosen one engaged in insurrection.
cajunrevenge
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cajunrevenge
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What world are you living in saying Republicans don't have a level of spite towards Joe Biden. If they had any avenue to remove Biden or block him they would try it. They have been attempting to get Biden before he even won the election. you can come up with whatever interpretation you want but you need a court to accept it.
nsacpi
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As written the disqualification clause of the 14th amendment is self-executing. I think there is still a factual question that should be determined in a trial. Whether or not very poorly chosen one engaged in insurrection. That should be litigated in an adversarial setting. The way to resolve this is for the Supreme Court to send the case to a lower court to hold a speedy trial.
Another possibility is for the Supreme Court itself to hold such a trial. But this would be unprecedented. It is a court of appeal under our system. It doesn't try facts. Its job is to find defects in the legal reasoning of lower courts.
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sturg33
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On what grounds did Donald trump engage in a pepper spray insurrection, outside of liberals and media saying so?
Has he been convicted of such?
Yall cool with a state throwing a political opponent off the ballot based on accusations?
(I know you are, I just pray to God you get to taste the consequences of that one day)
Has he been convicted of such?
Yall cool with a state throwing a political opponent off the ballot based on accusations?
(I know you are, I just pray to God you get to taste the consequences of that one day)
I would love to know how Trump engaged in an insurrection when we have strong video evidence of the crowd being peaceful until rubber bullets and flash grenades went into the crowd.
sturg33
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Even if he did, which is laughable
There's no conviction of such a thing
This is like a state throwing Biden off the ballot bc he was accused of rape.
It's insane
Of course, sadly, this is part of the lefts plan to consolidate GOP support around trump... and like the indictments, it will probably work
nsacpi
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Actually, I don't think his activities on January 6 constitute insurrection (though there was plenty of dereliction of duty). But his broader activities in trying to overturn an election was an attempt to subvert the constitution and prevent the peaceful transfer of power to a duly elected president. On those grounds I think he should be disqualified under the 14th amendment.
cajunrevenge
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Again, the state didn't do anything. Private citizens sued the state alledging Trump was ineligible to be on the ballot based on the constitutional requirements and won. The state has no say on that.
nsacpi
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Any private citizen is free to bring a similar lawsuit against credibly accused creepy joe.
sturg33
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So the state ruled on the argument of a bunch of losers who believed the most peaceful protest of 2020/2021 was an insurrection?
If the bar is that low, I may take some action