Trade targets?

4th and 19, just punt. All these long term deals make everyone lazy and they didn't work on their craft this offseason like they should have.
 
There are only 3 things that can save this season...

1. Fire this staff
2. AA learn that you can't rely on guys staying healthy all season - improve the upper minors and bench.
3. Find a way to get rid of Matt Olson
 
Carp said:
I mean someone like Winker who is a rental shouldn't cost much at all.
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This boat has 4 holes in it... 5 if you're like me and know Olson is done. What's filling one hole gonna do? Like on titanic, this ship is gonna sink... its a mathematical certainty
 
Olson is not "done."

We don't have 4 holes realistically. Harris will be back in about 2 weeks. Ozzie should be back in early-mid-September. We just need a replacements for Acuna and another solid SP.
 
Carp said:
Olson is not "done."

We don't have 4 holes realistically. Harris will be back in about 2 weeks. Ozzie should be back in early-mid-September. We just need a replacements for Acuna and another solid SP.
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We have to play until they get back. We have a 1 game lead on the 3rd WC. Harris can't come back for at least 19 days, and that isn't certain with his set back. Ozzie is only helpful for the playoffs, and making them is hardly a given.
 
Unless AA just decides to blow by the luxury threshold, there's no reason to do anything. Either go big, or let this team sink or swim on their own.
 
msstate7 said:
Then give me the scientific reason as to why all these long term guys have been crap this season. I'm searching bc I wanna know.
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Because they've had ****ty luck, combined with the MLB effing with the baseballs. It happens periodically. And Olson is streaky in general. Do you not recall the 2nd half of 2022 when he hit like .190 for almost 2 months?
 
Carp said:
Because they've had ****ty luck, combined with the MLB effing with the baseballs. It happens periodically. And Olson is streaky in general. Do you not recall the 2nd half of 2022 when he hit like .190 for almost 2 months?
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He's .693 ops for the season. That's totally unacceptable.
Riley .782
Ozzie .717
Acuna .716
Harris .653
Murphy .654

With the same ball, ozuna .966
 
I think it is past the point of crap luck being the reason there is sooo much under performance. to a man, sans Ozuna, the whole offense was under performing by a good margin. Riley is the only other guy who is at least in the same ball park to his norm.. and by norm, I don't mean last year. whether you want to blame the balls, the lack of leadership, lazy offseason, regression or anything else, this team is in serious trouble and I don't think they are making the playoff with a good smack in the face.

I personally think it is a combo of most of those things. I think guys like Harris and Riley came in out of shape.. Olson I think tinkered and broke himself, Acuna had to steal some bases in the spring, Ozzie needs someone to smack him and tell him to learn pitch recognition. Murphy was just a horrible trade because twit doesn't know how to manage him.. plus you trade for a stronger arm just before MLB decides to make a stolen base a sure thing.

I think at this point you have to ride the season out..see is a minor trade wakes anyone up and then you have to dump the entire staff sans pitching coach. shake it up and get a guy that might not be so player friendly.
 
msstate7 said:
He's .693 ops for the season. That's totally unacceptable.
Riley .782
Ozzie .717
Acuna .716
Harris .653
Murphy .654

With the same ball, ozuna .966
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Cy posted the chart the other day. We are 3rd worst in the league in homers over expected with a -15 mark, based on balls hit that should have been homers in the majority of ball parks. That's ****ty luck. If those numbers were simply league average, most of our guys overall numbers would look a lot better and we'd probably have 4-5 extra wins.

The data was also pointed out earlier in the year that our balls were traveling between 10-15 feet shorter than they were last year on balls hit with the same exit velocity and launch angle. And the same was true even for Ozuna, who was averaging about 9 feet shorter distances on the same ev's/la's than 2023. The only explanation for that is a change in baseballs. And that explains part of the reason why our expected homer numbers are so incredibly low.

So it's been a combination of having ****ty luck, players having extended slumps, and the MLB effing with the baseballs.
 
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If I'm any selling club in the MLB, I call Baltimore and Milwaukee to see what prospects I could land from them first. Both of those farms are loaded.
 
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