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Anyone who harms children and/or animals is a scumbag.

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This is going to sound like a weird gripe but I don’t like this, and not because it’s Ron DeSantis. I agree this person should have the book thrown at them depending on the circumstances, but I don’t love when government officials, particularly prominent executives, use their position of influence to push for severe criminal penalties for the accused. This is very much a thing that happens across the political spectrum depending on the crime or criminal demographics, but it’s just a bad thing. We can make our own assumptions on what to do with an asshole who would basically drown a dog without the head of the entity prosecuting that criminal weighing in and rallying half the people to support harsh penalties.
 
The thing is if they fixed the previous polling errors, that’s just not true. As has been mentioned, Harris’ lead plus the standard margin of error would have her in-line with Biden’s 2020 results.

Biden won the popular vote by 4.5%. So yes, even if polling is more accurate this time around, her support is significantly less than Biden's.

At best you can PA, WI, and MI are toss ups. In reality, Trump is leading PA, and likely has a slight lead in WI and MI. And he's leading NC, AZ, and GA.
 
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Impossible to say - Neighborhood of 10M I'd say but the raw number is difficult to isolate.

These aren't all Biden votes either. They had to inject fake Trump votes as well because then it would be too obvious to even dullards.

Probably 85/15 Biden votes.

Again - The tell was when DOJ threatened anyone that did existence testing. Maybe you don't know what that is but it was the clearest symbol the election was stolen.

this equation does indeed allow Trump to surpass Romney shares. But it still leads to a 50/50 tie with Pedo Joe... and that's removing 8.5M and 1.5M votes from each respectively

I don't see how this generous calculus is the proof that shows Trump is the most popular candidate ever, while he still can't clear Pedo Joe in a 1:1
 
It is astounding a former US POTUS sent Covid tests to Putin and not one person here seems to even notice.

Horse Race

Horse Race

Horse Race

non stop.

No dicussion Harris proposal - Medicare covering in home care.

Which when looked at is an issue for each and every one of us.

Please bear in mind ACA which Trump has shouted with a bull horn will be scrapped has relief for those with pre existing conditions.

And, what exactly are " pre existing conditions " ?

The reality pre ACA, anything the insurance carrier says it is.
 
Sturg is not in a cult. He calls it like he sees it. Further, you don't really have any room to be calling someone cultish.

This isn't productive and its intentionally dishonest.

It really doesn't matter at this point what happened in 2020, i hope Trump gets elected and we find out but he usually gets distracted by the next ball of yarn.

Indeed. Thethe and I were alligned on the awesomeness of RDS in 2022. All the sudden - thethe changed his tune... can't quite figure out why. Such a mystery!

Since then, RDS has been stacking victories the likes of which I have never seen. He's easily been the most effective politician I have ever seen - surpassing my favorite politicians like Ron Paul and Thomas Massie who said all the right things but never truly moved the needle.

Ron DeSantis has actually positively impacted my life (and I don't live in Florida!) and the life of Americans outside of Florida numerous times; moreso than any other politician - including Trump and Kari Lake and JD Vance

But thethe dismisses it all because he's not allowed to acknowledge it anymore. Trump and Laura Loomer have forbid it. He dismisses everything he does, or makes excuses (red legislature!), or takes victory laps prematurely (remember when thethe was celebrating Disney?)

I'm really disappointed to see someone I used to hold respect for fall so badly down a cult that he's unsavable. Flipping on abortion the way he did, calling for more unions, wanting nationalized healthchare, wanting to end the electoral college, saying there's no use in cutting spending, etc etc etc. I can go on and on, but we've got the point

a man should not sacrifice everything he believes in due bc of another man. Trump is to the left of the Obama platform. He's to the left of the clinton platform. He has overseen historic losses and the left has advanced further faster than any other time in my life.

Want to vote for Trump bc he's less awful than Kamala. Fine - totally reasonable and rational. But to simply keep accepting the **** sandwhich he rubs in our faces and cheer it on in the process is so pathetic
 
It is astounding a former US POTUS sent Covid tests to Putin and not one person here seems to even notice.

Horse Race
Horse Race
Horse Race

non stop.
No dicussion Harris proposal - Medicare covering in home care.
Which when looked at is an issue for each and every one of us.

Please bear in mind ACA which Trump has shouted with a bull horn will be scrapped has relief for those with pre existing conditions.
And, what exactly are " pre existing conditions " ?
The reality pre ACA, anything the insurance carrier says it is.

There isn't a single policy that Kamala has proposed that isn't awful
 
No, that’s false by basically every measure except possibly the extent to which his base supports him. Trump is who he’s been for 8 years: a polarizing, largely unpopular figure whose supporters are all-in on.

Correct. There is not a single metric or piece of evidence to support such an absurd claim.

I would argue he is the most popular candidate among his base, but beyond that - much of the party doesn't like him. The left despises him. His approval rating has always been abysmal. His election results have been subpar. His endorsements in toss up races almost never move the needle. Hell, he was only pulling roughly half the vote in the primary til everyone dropped out
 
There isn't a single policy that Kamala has proposed that isn't awful

Hoping you or your family never get sick

I used to drive by a homeless shelter early every morning on my way v to work.

And one day it dawned on me.

We are all just one bad break away.

Everyone has a price and everyone has a breaking point.

You get to live in a world where you only have to compromise your ptice.

Breaking point are not as negotiable.

So for starters, strengthening ACA or other new and innovative forms of medical safety net are a must.
 
this equation does indeed allow Trump to surpass Romney shares. But it still leads to a 50/50 tie with Pedo Joe... and that's removing 8.5M and 1.5M votes from each respectively

I don't see how this generous calculus is the proof that shows Trump is the most popular candidate ever, while he still can't clear Pedo Joe in a 1:1

People pretended that Biden wasn’t a strong candidate this whole time. The race would be much closer right now if Biden were the nominee.

Trump has also made it “cool” to be a young Republican. That’s why we see a shift in this demographic. Completely changed the board and through time even the annoying haters like you will see it.
 
this equation does indeed allow Trump to surpass Romney shares. But it still leads to a 50/50 tie with Pedo Joe... and that's removing 8.5M and 1.5M votes from each respectively

I don't see how this generous calculus is the proof that shows Trump is the most popular candidate ever, while he still can't clear Pedo Joe in a 1:1

People pretended that Biden wasn’t a strong candidate this whole time. The race would be much closer right now if Biden were the nominee.

Trump has also made it “cool” to be a young Republican. That’s why we see a shift in this demographic. Completely changed the board and through time even the annoying haters like you will see it.
 
Indeed. Thethe and I were alligned on the awesomeness of RDS in 2022. All the sudden - thethe changed his tune... can't quite figure out why. Such a mystery!

Since then, RDS has been stacking victories the likes of which I have never seen. He's easily been the most effective politician I have ever seen - surpassing my favorite politicians like Ron Paul and Thomas Massie who said all the right things but never truly moved the needle.

Ron DeSantis has actually positively impacted my life (and I don't live in Florida!) and the life of Americans outside of Florida numerous times; moreso than any other politician - including Trump and Kari Lake and JD Vance

But thethe dismisses it all because he's not allowed to acknowledge it anymore. Trump and Laura Loomer have forbid it. He dismisses everything he does, or makes excuses (red legislature!), or takes victory laps prematurely (remember when thethe was celebrating Disney?)

I'm really disappointed to see someone I used to hold respect for fall so badly down a cult that he's unsavable. Flipping on abortion the way he did, calling for more unions, wanting nationalized healthchare, wanting to end the electoral college, saying there's no use in cutting spending, etc etc etc. I can go on and on, but we've got the point

a man should not sacrifice everything he believes in due bc of another man. Trump is to the left of the Obama platform. He's to the left of the clinton platform. He has overseen historic losses and the left has advanced further faster than any other time in my life.

Want to vote for Trump bc he's less awful than Kamala. Fine - totally reasonable and rational. But to simply keep accepting the **** sandwhich he rubs in our faces and cheer it on in the process is so pathetic

How have I dismissed the job desantis has done exactly? You just don’t like that I accurately state he isn’t as viable nationally. Don’t shoot the messenger or make up lies like I am dismissive of RDS as a Gov.

Trump to left of Obama? Hahahahahaahahaba

And you held me in respect because I get so much right when everyone initially says I’m wrong. You’re just ok the side of people who are wrong right now. But you’ll see…
 
Trump has also made it “cool” to be a young Republican.

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This is going to sound like a weird gripe but I don’t like this, and not because it’s Ron DeSantis. I agree this person should have the book thrown at them depending on the circumstances, but I don’t love when government officials, particularly prominent executives, use their position of influence to push for severe criminal penalties for the accused. This is very much a thing that happens across the political spectrum depending on the crime or criminal demographics, but it’s just a bad thing. We can make our own assumptions on what to do with an asshole who would basically drown a dog without the head of the entity prosecuting that criminal weighing in and rallying half the people to support harsh penalties.

We need stricture punishment on all crimes. Only way to discourage activity. RDS is fantastic on this front.
 
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Just outright embarrassing that the Democrats put up this complete zero as a candidate without getting a single vote.

Disgraceful.
 
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Many thought I was crazy when I said this years ago.

Visionaries are often mocked by the muguls.
 
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Pretty clear indicator the gravy train is about to get shut off when Trump wins in a landslide.
 
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