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It ain't hard to remember what a fool our academic lecturer is
The Biden Presidency
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It ain't hard to remember what a fool our academic lecturer is
Well, I'm sure he's correct about how great the blue states are despite their population decreases. lol
BL, Cajun, Runnin and 57 all told us how great the Biden economy was.
I don’t want larger influence in general, I want different priorities and don’t mind there being taxes for those priorities. The exception I do have is that I value strong worker and consumer protections as I don’t think the free market is responsive enough against businesses that go against those groups, even if it eventually gets there.
acesfull86
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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/02/biden-ron-klain-trump-debate-prep-book-chris-whipple
In a new book, Joe Biden’s former White House chief of staff paints a devastating picture of the then US president’s mental and physical state before the debate with Donald Trump that sent his 2024 campaign into a tailspin, resulting in his relinquishing the Democratic nomination to Kamala Harris.
Ron Klain served Biden from 2021 to 2023, then returned to his side last June to run debate preparation as he had for numerous Democratic presidents before.
According to Klain, it turned out that Biden “didn’t know what Trump had been saying and couldn’t grasp what the back and forth was”; left preparation and fell asleep by the pool; obsessed about foreign leaders, saying “these guys say I’m doing a great job as president so I must be a great president”; “didn’t really understand what his argument was on inflation”; and “had nothing to say about a second term other than finish the job”.
As described by Klain to the reporter Chris Whipple, at one point Biden had an idea.
“If he looked perplexed when Trump talked, voters would understand that Trump was an idiot. Klain replied: ‘Sir, when you look perplexed, people just think you’re perplexed. And this is our problem in this race.”
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“At his first meeting with Biden in Aspen Lodge, the president’s cabin,” Whipple writes, Klain “was startled. He’d never seen him so exhausted and out of it. Biden was unaware of what was happening in his own campaign. Halfway through the session, the president excused himself and went off to sit by the pool.
“That evening Biden met again with Klain and his team, [Biden aides] Mike Donilon, Steve Richetti, and Bruce Reed. ‘We sat around the table,’ said Klain. ‘[Biden] had answers on cards, and he was just extremely exhausted. And I was struck by how out of touch with American politics he was. He was just very, very focused on his interactions with Nato leaders.’”
Klain, Whipple writes, “wondered half-seriously if Biden thought he was president of Nato instead of the US. ‘He just became very enraptured with being the head of Nato,’ he said. That wouldn’t help him on Capitol Hill because, as Klain noted, ‘domestic political leaders don’t really care what [Emmanuel] Macron and [Olaf] Scholz think.’”
Klain, fellow aides and visitors including the film mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg tried to get Biden into shape. Two mock debates were organized, focusing on domestic policy.
“The first was scheduled to last 90 minutes but Klain called it off after 45. The president’s voice was shot and so was his grasp of the subject. All he really could talk about was his infrastructure plan and how he was rebuilding America and 16 million jobs. He had nothing to say about his agenda for a second term.”
Klain says Biden grew irritable, saying he would not make promises as he would be criticized for failing to deliver. Klain says he tried to persuade Biden to run on unfinished business, including his attempt to “subsidize state and local efforts to do childcare and bring down the cost to $20 a day. And you ought to try to fight for it again.”
“Biden seemed befuddled,” Whipple writes. “‘Well, that just seems like a big spending program,’ he said.
Klain said: “No, sir. It brings down costs for people. It’s responsive to inflation. It will bring more people into the workforce. It’s good economics. And you know this is something you’re for.”
But “Biden didn’t want to talk about it” and “25 minutes into the second mock debate, the president was done for the day. ‘I’m just too tired to continue and I’m afraid of losing my voice here and I feel bad,’ he said. ‘I just need some sleep. I’ll be fine tomorrow.’ He went off to bed.”
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Woof. And lol.
In a new book, Joe Biden’s former White House chief of staff paints a devastating picture of the then US president’s mental and physical state before the debate with Donald Trump that sent his 2024 campaign into a tailspin, resulting in his relinquishing the Democratic nomination to Kamala Harris.
Ron Klain served Biden from 2021 to 2023, then returned to his side last June to run debate preparation as he had for numerous Democratic presidents before.
According to Klain, it turned out that Biden “didn’t know what Trump had been saying and couldn’t grasp what the back and forth was”; left preparation and fell asleep by the pool; obsessed about foreign leaders, saying “these guys say I’m doing a great job as president so I must be a great president”; “didn’t really understand what his argument was on inflation”; and “had nothing to say about a second term other than finish the job”.
As described by Klain to the reporter Chris Whipple, at one point Biden had an idea.
“If he looked perplexed when Trump talked, voters would understand that Trump was an idiot. Klain replied: ‘Sir, when you look perplexed, people just think you’re perplexed. And this is our problem in this race.”
…
“At his first meeting with Biden in Aspen Lodge, the president’s cabin,” Whipple writes, Klain “was startled. He’d never seen him so exhausted and out of it. Biden was unaware of what was happening in his own campaign. Halfway through the session, the president excused himself and went off to sit by the pool.
“That evening Biden met again with Klain and his team, [Biden aides] Mike Donilon, Steve Richetti, and Bruce Reed. ‘We sat around the table,’ said Klain. ‘[Biden] had answers on cards, and he was just extremely exhausted. And I was struck by how out of touch with American politics he was. He was just very, very focused on his interactions with Nato leaders.’”
Klain, Whipple writes, “wondered half-seriously if Biden thought he was president of Nato instead of the US. ‘He just became very enraptured with being the head of Nato,’ he said. That wouldn’t help him on Capitol Hill because, as Klain noted, ‘domestic political leaders don’t really care what [Emmanuel] Macron and [Olaf] Scholz think.’”
Klain, fellow aides and visitors including the film mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg tried to get Biden into shape. Two mock debates were organized, focusing on domestic policy.
“The first was scheduled to last 90 minutes but Klain called it off after 45. The president’s voice was shot and so was his grasp of the subject. All he really could talk about was his infrastructure plan and how he was rebuilding America and 16 million jobs. He had nothing to say about his agenda for a second term.”
Klain says Biden grew irritable, saying he would not make promises as he would be criticized for failing to deliver. Klain says he tried to persuade Biden to run on unfinished business, including his attempt to “subsidize state and local efforts to do childcare and bring down the cost to $20 a day. And you ought to try to fight for it again.”
“Biden seemed befuddled,” Whipple writes. “‘Well, that just seems like a big spending program,’ he said.
Klain said: “No, sir. It brings down costs for people. It’s responsive to inflation. It will bring more people into the workforce. It’s good economics. And you know this is something you’re for.”
But “Biden didn’t want to talk about it” and “25 minutes into the second mock debate, the president was done for the day. ‘I’m just too tired to continue and I’m afraid of losing my voice here and I feel bad,’ he said. ‘I just need some sleep. I’ll be fine tomorrow.’ He went off to bed.”
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Woof. And lol.
Tapate50
Well-known member
Indeed. Amazing stuff. Kinda makes you wonder when they post if any self reflection was done
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I find this post hysterical as someone who constantly was downplaying books written by former Trump WH people as hearsay etc.
So when it's about Trump, it's fake news, when it's about Biden, it's truly factual. That's the hilarious double standard of the MAGA Mental Illness.
Tapate50
Well-known member
Is this like him wrestling the steering wheel from multiple SS agents to drive back to the Capitol or nah?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I love when you make it easy to laugh at you.
Tapate50
Well-known member
Sure Karen!
Still wishing death on park goers are we? I wouldn't take yourself so seriously here. Everyones laughing
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I know your comedy idols like Dane Cook never did more than one schtick, but it would behoove you to do it.
What makes making fun of you boring is just how uninteresting you are. Sturg and thethe are characters, it's fun to bounce shit off them. You're unseasoned boneless skinless chicken breast.
Tapate50
Well-known member
People get massive gains on boneless skinless chicken breast
Dane cook is insulting to comedy everywhere. I'm more of a Theo Vonn guy right now. Nate Barrgatze and former fatty Tom Segura too
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
I just dont agree its different from Trump. The only difference is you people try desperately to discredit whatever the source is if you dont like it. Bidens been a moron his whole life. So being a moron now says nothing. Trump himself has fallen asleep at public events and rapidly loses interest if the topic being discussed isnt him. Maybe we should compare the list of former appointees who claimed their President was a blithering idiot. Trumps list is around 100. All lifelong Republicans. Bidens list is 2 maybe 3 people. Yet you pimp anyone who says it about Biden with no self awareness.
I don't think you'll find many people that think Trump is an idiot.
A buffoon? Sure. A self absorbed ego maniac? Absolutely. But he's quite smart.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
There are quite a few people who have worked very closely with him who don't think he has the intellectual capacity for the job. One Secretary of Defense. A couple national security advisors. A chief of staff. An attorney general. And a Secretary of State who famously called him a "fucking moron."