Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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nsacpi
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There is caselaw allowing damages for illegal searches and seizures:
Bivens v. Six Unknown Federal Narcotics Agents (1971):
This Supreme Court case established that individuals can sue federal agents for violating their constitutional rights, specifically the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
In this particular case, it is a human being who has been seized and sent off to a notorious prison in another country. The damages could be considerable. He could sue. His wife could sue. His autistic 5-year old son who was with him when he was seized could sue. All three of them have suffered severe trauma and damages from this.
Bivens v. Six Unknown Federal Narcotics Agents (1971):
This Supreme Court case established that individuals can sue federal agents for violating their constitutional rights, specifically the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
In this particular case, it is a human being who has been seized and sent off to a notorious prison in another country. The damages could be considerable. He could sue. His wife could sue. His autistic 5-year old son who was with him when he was seized could sue. All three of them have suffered severe trauma and damages from this.
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Who here had constitutional rights?
But it’s not though. There’s a reason the Trump Admin is admitting it made an error and he was still here in the first place. I’m not complaining about him being deported in general, but there’s little evidence to suggest he should be in a maximum security prison.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Any person residing here has a right to due process. Abrego was here legally. You don't have to be a citizen to benefit from the constitution's protections against arbitrary arrest and seizure. Let alone being sent off to a notorious prison in another country without any sort of due process.
I don't have a problem arresting gang members and other undesirables and deporting them. But even they should have due process. To protect against this very kind of mistake when an innocent person gets caught up in a dragnet.
I’m genuinely shocked this is possibly considered a controversial opinion. At some point after the election a third of the country just decided laws and rights are for ****ing losers.
Yeah - get tied up in a legal system with compromised judges and NGO with billions of dollars to fight.
No thanks! But keep pushing the 20 on the 80/20 issue.
No, you don’t get to excuse the government violating due process of people and mistakenly sending them to a prison in El Salvador on ****ing Joe Biden. Even if I were open to your claims, the response to tyranny is not counter-tyranny.
The problem with this is that I can just turn it around back on you. I have always maintained that J6 rioters were mistreated, but rights violations are not a zero-sum game. We could just not do bad things to either group.
I’d actually prefer no tyranny, but it seems to me that sending random people who haven’t been proven to be dangerous criminals to a prison in another country is not one of the steps one *must* take to stop tyranny from the other side of the aisle.
They will, but that’s a really weird argument in favor of harming random people that weren’t the ones that imprisoned the J6ers.
Sure you do - Unless of course its pushing what you want like insanity on children.
BUt yes, to fix the mess the globalist left has created in this country we will need to do things that we would normally not want to do.
Oh well, the people of this country will vote in 26/28 if they approve. They knew exactly what Trump would do and voted him overwhelmingly into office.
Why? Was this one immigrant in Maryland the keeper of all political power? What next step in saving America from the tyrannical left was impeded by this one man not being in prison in El Salvador?