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Not that anyone cares but this would be my 30 man

GK 3 - Howard, Guzan, Rimando (no competitions at GK)
DF 8 - Fabian Johnson, Beasley, Besler, Gonzalez, Cameron, Evans, Goodson, Parkhurst
MF 12 - Landycakes, Bradley, Jones, Zusi, Shea, Green, Bedoya, Beckerman, Mix, Edu, Corona, Davis
FW 7 - Dempsey, Jozy, Johannson, Wondo, Eddie Johnson, Boyd, Agudelo

I don't think guys like Corona, Edu, Boyd, Agudelo, or Parkhurst have an amazing shot. One of if not both Green and Shea are likely gone but I'd love both off the bench. Based on who I've seen play this would be my roster. I alsGK - o don't like Beckerman, but Klinsmann obviously does, so he'll make it.

Starters

GK - Howard
RB - Johnson
CB - Besler
CB - Gonzilla
LB - Beasley
CDM - Jones
CM - Bradley
LAM - Zusi
RAM - Landycakes
CF - Dempsey
ST - Jozy

Reserves
Guzan GK
Rimando Gk
Cameron DEF (some want him to start RB and Johnson to replace Landycakes but that really sets us up terrible against Nani/Ronaldo) I would also consider him starting at CDM and going with a diamond midfield with Bradley playing more advanced
Goodson CB
Evans FB
Beckerman CDM
Bedoya MF (seemingly can play wide or the middle)
Shea winger
Green winger
Mix CM
Johannson ST
Wondo ST

I know I'm going ST heavy but I think it's needed. Tricky part is who to pick between Eddie and Wondo. Eddie brings speed, Wondo brings poaching. Both are likely second second choices to Johannson.

I know I left out a few guys some people think likely will make it like Davis. I think going youth is better. SOme projected 30 men include Yedlin and Brooks. I hope Jurgen doesn't include them they're not ready yet. They're both potential starters for 2018 but not quite ready yet. Only way I'd bring Yedlin is if you are going to use Fabian in the midfield.
 
gilesfan said:
USA/Ghana will be exciting. That will be the decider I'm sure
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It's a must win for the US. They can potentially draw against Germany and Portugal, but not beating Ghana is basically the end of the US shot of advancing.

SO the 30 man came out, sad Shea didn't make it. Love the kids raw ability. Really surprised that Boyd made it but neither Agudelo or Eddie. The good news, US is considering (at least for now) Fabian as a defender. And Timmy Chandler is on the roster. I know there were concerns about his fitness and he had not been a favorite of Jurgen after he sat out the Gold Cup or whichever comp that would have cap tied him to the US. But if he is healthy, he should be starting. I'd love him and Fabian at RB and LB respectively. I like Beasley a ton, but he's not a traditional fullback and I'm sure he will be a point of attack by Portugal. German doesn't have many guys who run wide so that's not terrible.

Interesting factoid from US Soccer.com

A total of 10 players were also on the preliminary roster for the 2010 FIFA World Cup: Jozy Altidore, DaMarcus Beasley, Alejandro Bedoya, Michael Bradley, Clint Dempsey, Landon Donovan, Maurice Edu, Clarence Goodson, Brad Guzan and Tim Howard. Bedoya is the only player who did not make the trip to South Africa.

That's a lot of turnover. Especially since Edu likely won't make the team, and Beasley was a MF last time around.
 
Tottenham sacked Sherwood. After all the years of sticking behind Redknapp, they're now canning managers left and right.
 
zitothebrave said:
Tottenham sacked Sherwood. After all the years of sticking behind Redknapp, they're now canning managers left and right.
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I miss Harry.

Sherwood was awful. Sucks because of his history with the club, but everyone knew he wasn't ready for the big time yet he seemed to be the only one thinking it was a long term gig. (he was interim)
 
Still a bummer for him though. Tottenham needs better direction. AVB was clashing with management over players, and it looks like largely AVB was right in most cases.
 
zitothebrave said:
Still a bummer for him though. Tottenham needs better direction. AVB was clashing with management over players, and it looks like largely AVB was right in most cases.
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What was AVB right about? The only player he brought in that did anything was Erikson.

I liked AVB more than most, nut he's got his hand in the majority of the players currently on the squad.
 
AVB wanted to immediately replace Bale with Hulk, he didn't get Hulk because Levy was haggling over 500,000 euros. He also really wanted Moutinho who went to Monaco instead. And he really wanted David Villa who went to Atletico instead It's debateable if Villa would have been better than Adebayor, But it's not debateable that Hulk would have been way better than anyone out on the left wing. He wanted really bad Hulk and Willian to change the pressure coming from their wings to make it almost a 3 striker type of formation.
 
Spurs tried to get Willian but he chose Chelsea.

Hulk is massively overated and I'm pumped that he went elsewhere. Most Spurs fans did not want Moutinho, which ended up being the right move bc Erikson is much, much better.

I would take Lamela over Hulk based on his potential.
 
Just curious gf, what made you do a 180 on soccer? You berated the sport plenty back in the day on scout.... and then all of a sudden loved it.

Crowd atmosphere and fan passion?
 
gilesfan said:
Spurs tried to get Willian but he chose Chelsea.

Hulk is massively overated and I'm pumped that he went elsewhere. Most Spurs fans did not want Moutinho, which ended up being the right move bc Erikson is much, much better.

I would take Lamela over Hulk based on his potential.
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Erickson is a better potential than Moutinho but I don't think he's better now.

Hulk I think is overrated. but being a great player who people think is world class isn't bad. He's scored on average a goal every other game. Hard to hate on that.
 
KeithLockhart said:
Just curious gf, what made you do a 180 on soccer? You berated the sport plenty back in the day on scout.... and then all of a sudden loved it.

Crowd atmosphere and fan passion?
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Just decided to give it a shot and did a **** ton of research in preparation for betting on the world cup.
 
zitothebrave said:
Erickson is a better potential than Moutinho but I don't think he's better now.

Hulk I think is overrated. but being a great player who people think is world class isn't bad. He's scored on average a goal every other game. Hard to hate on that.
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I didn't see much of Moutinho this year, but Erikson was fantastic this year. He really took to the Premier League. He really took over games and won a bunch of points with late goals kinda similar, but to a lesser degree, than Bale did last year.

Levy will not simply open up his pocket for any player. He will offer what he thinks player is worth and not budge. You can debate if that's good or not, but Hulk would not have been worth what it would have taken to get him, imo.
 
gilesfan said:
I didn't see much of Moutinho this year, but Erikson was fantastic this year. He really took to the Premier League. He really took over games and won a bunch of points with late goals kinda similar, but to a lesser degree, than Bale did last year.

Levy will not simply open up his pocket for any player. He will offer what he thinks player is worth and not budge. You can debate if that's good or not, but Hulk would not have been worth what it would have taken to get him, imo.
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Moutinho was better. Not much better because like you said Eriksen took to the EPL greatly. And long term his potential is higher. Hulk and Moutinho is way better than Eriksen and Sigurdsson. Even if they went with Eriksen should have had Hulk or Moutinho because Eriksen could have played the other.

They were haggling over 500K in a 31M deal. Would yo haggle over a dime at the dollar store?
 
zitothebrave said:
Moutinho was better. Not much better because like you said Eriksen took to the EPL greatly. And long term his potential is higher. Hulk and Moutinho is way better than Eriksen and Sigurdsson. Even if they went with Eriksen should have had Hulk or Moutinho because Eriksen could have played the other.

They were haggling over 500K in a 31M deal. Would yo haggle over a dime at the dollar store?
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Moutinho had 1 goal and 14 assists in 43 games in a far inferior league. Erikson had 7 goals and 8 assists in 25 matches.

WHy would you even bring up Siggy? He is just backup/squad depth that was already on the team.

Hulk 27 years old 31 million
Moutinho 26 years old 25+ million

or

Paulinho 25 yrs old 17 mil
Erickson 22yrs old 11.5 mil
Lamela 22 years old 26 mil

is a no brainer.
 
Also with Moutinho you could have put him at CDM with Paulinho.

Again we're comparing pretty much either Hulk and Moutinho to Sigurdson first, then Eriksen second. As Spurs could have easily signed Hulk and Eriksen or Moutinho and Eriksen. They basically picked Lamela and Soldado over those 2 and I think short term at least that's the wrong move. Hulk was better for zenit than anyone was for Tottenham, same with Moutinho. Lamela and Soldado are good long term prospects, but they don't even sniff those other 2 and maybe with 2 nbetter players they make the UCL.
 
zitothebrave said:
Also with Moutinho you could have put him at CDM with Paulinho.

Again we're comparing pretty much either Hulk and Moutinho to Sigurdson first, then Eriksen second. As Spurs could have easily signed Hulk and Eriksen or Moutinho and Eriksen. They basically picked Lamela and Soldado over those 2 and I think short term at least that's the wrong move. Hulk was better for zenit than anyone was for Tottenham, same with Moutinho. Lamela and Soldado are good long term prospects, but they don't even sniff those other 2 and maybe with 2 nbetter players they make the UCL.
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You can't put two attacking midfielders as CDM in a 4-2-3-1. You have to have Sandro/Capo/etc. with a Paulinho so either Paul or Moutinho would be off the squad or out of place on the wins.

Again, why are you bringing up Siggy, who is just squad depth? He's not even a first choice starter.

Hulk would have been the most expensive transfer in Tottenham history and is 27 years old and massively overated, I don't see what that accomplishes.

The issue with not reaching Champions League was more so a lack of an effective striker and a piss poor left back, not central midfield or right wing. If there was an upgrade, which I won't say for sure there was, especially long term in mind, it doesn't compensate for the 2 big weaknesses on the squad.
 
gilesfan said:
You can't put two attacking midfielders as CDM in a 4-2-3-1. You have to have Sandro/Capo/etc. with a Paulinho so either Paul or Moutinho would be off the squad or out of place on the wins.

Again, why are you bringing up Siggy, who is just squad depth? He's not even a first choice starter.

Hulk would have been the most expensive transfer in Tottenham history and is 27 years old and massively overated, I don't see what that accomplishes.

The issue with not reaching Champions League was more so a lack of an effective striker and a piss poor left back, not central midfield or right wing. If there was an upgrade, which I won't say for sure there was, especially long term in mind, it doesn't compensate for the 2 big weaknesses on the squad.
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Hulk scores goals.
 
The Qatar World Cup fiasco is back with a vengeance after FIFA President admits it's a mistake to play there in the Summer.

Duhhhhhhhhh

It's freaking obvious that the Qatar oil barons bought this, cancel it and move it to US, UK, or France. Somewhere where the ecosystem exists. Brazil is using 12 stadiums, primarily on the coast, covering an area larger than much longer than the eastern seaboard. US. If you take the North East quarter of the US where you have NY, Boston, Philly, Washington, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincy, Indianapolis, Green Bay, Detroit, etc. you can easily have more huge stadiums in a smaller area than the Brazil olympics with no major planning ahead. There's 8 groups, section 2 groups to an "area" call it New York/Boston, Philly/Baltimore/DC, Pitt/Cleveland/Detroit, Cincy/Chicago/Wisconsin, or something like that.

Could even play games at colleges. Some high capacity college stadiums in the near areas to that include Beaver Stadium, Michigan Stadium,Ohio Stadium, Notre Dame Stadium, Spartan Stadium, Yale Bowl, Memorial Stadium, Ross-Ade Stadium, and that's about where I feel like stopping.

Basically you have a few countries who immediately can take over the hosting duties of the WC because they have big empty stadiums in June. US and France hosted somewhat recently so I can understand giving it to the Brits. Between London, Liverpool and Manchester which are about as far apart as say NYC and DC you have an insane number of big time soccer clubs. Already have a "main" stadium ready in Wembley as well.
 
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